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The picture you've posted is scary! It looks as if my grandson did a dismantling job on it. I've looked through a ton if Henny's stuff never seen one I wasn't impressed with. That said, never say never I guess!
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I'm really confused with this post. If I received a scope with the lense in the condition you said and the pic you posted I'd immediately be sending it back for a new Hensoldt. I wouldn't continue to ask about distortion, flare, etc. because you're evaluation and testing would be flawed due to the condition of the optics.


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Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

I'm really confused with this post. If I received a scope with the lense in the condition you said and the pic you posted I'd immediately be sending it back for a new Hensoldt. I wouldn't continue to ask about distortion, flare, etc. because you're evaluation and testing would be flawed due to the condition of the optics.




Tru dat, even if I bought a $100 scope that had spots on the internal lenses, that baby would be headed back for replacement. 
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I've decided to give the Hensoldt another chance. I asked for an exchange instead of the refund. I hope none of the issues I found are in the new one.
So, end the confusion. ;)
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Got my replacement. This one says Zeiss on the bottom of the eyepiece. The previous had Cassidian Optronics. Both Hensoldt on top.
 The distortion near min and max elevation is about the same as is the 6X distortion around the edges. It definitely needs a sunshade even with overcast about to downpour skies. A makeshift sunshade out of paper improved the image. Eliminated most of the haze.
 It might be a few days before I see sunshine for the final test.
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Originally posted by Scottyman Scottyman wrote:

Got my replacement. This one says Zeiss on the bottom of the eyepiece. The previous had Cassidian Optronics. Both Hensoldt on top.
 The distortion near min and max elevation is about the same as is the 6X distortion around the edges. It definitely needs a sunshade even with overcast about to downpour skies. A makeshift sunshade out of paper improved the image. Eliminated most of the haze.
 It might be a few days before I see sunshine for the final test.

I don't do this often, butā€¦

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Are you serious? I have what to gain for lying? Loco I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
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Originally posted by Scottyman Scottyman wrote:

Are you serious? I have what to gain for lying? Loco I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
Everyone's eyes are differentā€¦ I guess you could have that bad a reaction to Hensoldt.  However, your descriptions of what you are experiencing are outlandish, totally anathema to reaction of the MANY people I've had look through mine.  No, you cannotā€¦ even if you came here you could notā€¦ at best you could just be jinxed.

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If Kahles glass is as good or better than Hensoldt, you have the best Kahles yet made, or the worst Hensoldt, or both.

I own both, it ain't even close. For my 2, I should say.
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My 6-24x72 Henny has never shown any of the problems the gentleman with the smudged lenses listed. It quite simply is THE best passive Night Vision made.  To get better NV you need a scope that electronically enhances the image.  Over the last 20 years I've had a half-dozen Nighforces, five S&B 5-25x56 scopes, standard Zeiss scopes, IOR, and probably some others - The Henny so far has been the ONLY scope I didn't try to trade away or sell for another project.  I am going to will it to my daughter upon my passing.  She LOVES it!
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IĀ“ve found a 2012 Zeiss Optronics / Hensoldt brochure on the net and wonder about elevation ranges: 

6-24x72 SFP: +- 100cm at 100m (=200cm total)
6-24x56 SFP: +- 80cm at 100m (=160cm total)

So far no surprise. 

Now in a 2012 presentation there is the 6-24x72 SAM listed as available with either SFP or FFP, but there is just a single value for elevation adjustment range: 

6-24x74: +-100cm at 100m (=200cm total, see above)

And here is the strange thing. In the same presentation there are also the 3-12x56 and 4-16x56 models, and they show a difference in adjustment range depending on FFP or SFP: 

3-12x56 SFP: +-200cm at 100m (=400cm total)
3-12x56 FFP: +-150cm at 100m (=300cm total)  (25% loss)

4-16x56 SFP: +-150cm at 100m (=300cm total)
4-16x56 FFP: +-112cm at 100m (=224cm total)  (24,6% loss)

Given that we seem to loose some elevation range by going for a FFP, I wonder what the reason for that is (asking for a technical explanation). 

I wonder if the 6-24x72 SAM will suffer from that as well, as only SFP elevation is shown. If the same principle applies, can we estimate that a FFP SAM would have around 25% loss as well, which means it will end up having around 150cm / +-75cm adjustment only ? 

IĀ“m asking because I soon will get one and need to decide between SFP and FFP. I prefer FFP, but wasnĀ“t aware of the reduced elevation range so far...



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  I looked through a Hensoldt 6-24x72 and it is probably the best I have seen. I have S&B,Zeiss, Swarovski,Leica,NF etc etc...
 After looking through it I ordered one.It should be here in about 3 weeks.
 Incidentally, on expensive optics I had to learn the hard way.Just save yourself the time and get yourself a Near Manufacturing Alpha mount. They never leave a mark on the scope and therefore save you money in the long run if you want to sell the optic. They are $325 Canadian dollars....
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Originally posted by canuck525 canuck525 wrote:

  I looked through a Hensoldt 6-24x72 and it is probably the best I have seen. I have S&B,Zeiss, Swarovski,Leica,NF etc etc...
 After looking through it I ordered one.It should be here in about 3 weeks.
 Incidentally, on expensive optics I had to learn the hard way.Just save yourself the time and get yourself a Near Manufacturing Alpha mount. They never leave a mark on the scope and therefore save you money in the long run if you want to sell the optic. They are $325 Canadian dollars....

I agreeā€¦ the Near Alphamount is superior in every respect.  It supports all my highest quality scopes.
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  Received my Hensoldt about a week ago and had a chance to try it out over the last few days.
 I am extremely disappointed. The CA is brutal in this scope. I have no idea how it left the factory like this.
 A snow line at 900 yards looked like someone painted a line 6 -8 feet deep across the entire field of view with florescent green, shift your eye down and it looks like 6-8 feet bright purple across the entire field of view. The images was impossible to focus past 500-600 yards. At dusk a $300 bushnell was superior( no I am not kidding)..It is simply blurry past 500-600 yards no matter what you do. Of course this as well as the rainbow effect is caused by excessive CA.
  If Hensoldt doesn't get their act together they will be for sale again....
 I am waiting to hear back from the dealer in order to send it back...
  Mistakes happen but it seems there are at least 3 mistakes in this one thread.
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This thread is confusing the hell out of me.  I have extensive experience with the Hensoldt 6-24x72 FFP and the Kahles 6-24x56, and people are saying things about the Henny that are orthogonal to my experience.
If someone chimes in that their Barska is better than the Henny, I'll know I've been played; but till them, what the hell are you people doing!
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  I ordered 3 scopes at the same time to compare. SO far I received the Hensoldt 6-24x72 and Schmidt and Bender PMII  5-25x56. I am still waiting on a Tangent Theta 5-25x56.
  Obviously I got a defective Hensoldt. I just don't see how they could ship a scope that was so bad.
 This was my first Hensoldt so I am not to thrilled about receiving a dud. Anyway, I have emailed the dealer and am waiting to hear back from him. Hopefully they replace it without a hassle and send a properly functioning unit.
  Hensoldt was bought  by Cassidian a couple of years ago. I am wondering if that has anything to do with what seems to be a quality control issue.
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Are you buying from a reputable dealer, an actual dealer?  These aren't ebay purchases, right?  No extra letters in "Hensoldt"?
Given the competitors, it will be close.  I have used the S&B, Henny, and the old Premier that is the foundation for the Tangent Theta, all great glass, each with a few differences.
If you look through the Henny and don't immediately say "wow", then yes, something is wrong.
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  If is from an authorized dealer. I have purchased from him several times including a Vectronix PLRF15C and Leica 8x42 HD-B rangefinder binos.
   As I said, I guess I got a dud but I must say it was extremely disappointing cause I looked through one before and thought it was the best I had seen.
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on a positive note it has by far the best eye box i have ever seen...
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In all honesty, with Hensoldt's changes to warranty coverage over the past few years, I would be more inclined to go TT or S&B right now, just too much in question with Hensoldt.
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  The main purpose of the 6-24x72 was going to be for long range hunting( for mature whitetail bucks) which is often in low light. So I hope the next one meets my expectations. If not I am probably going with a zeiss 4.8-35x60 or the  S&B 4-16x56 PMII ultra bright.
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If the Hensoldts you are buying are the ones after sellout by Zeiss, I cannot speak to thoseā€¦ Other than the only 3.5-26 I've ever had my hands on, I was not very impressed with.  

I would not purchase one of the Airbus versions.  Never cared for much of anything built by Airbus.
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  Found out they are still built in the same place. I guess I just got a dud . It happens. Anyway, I should have a replacement in about 3 weeks.
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