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Hello eveyone,

 

I was directed to this site yesterday by a salesman at Bass Pro Shops, while shopping for a new rifle and scope. What an incredible site. Pricing is clearly the same or better than any retail shop I have been to in person, and this site is far more informative than any salesman I have talked to yet. From what I can tell the SWFA customer service is right on as well. I look forward to being a new customer and hopefully a lifelong customer. I navigated around for scopes for an hour or so and going into it I was really leaning towards the Bushnell Elite 4200. Then I started looking around in the forums. After reading posts till 4:00 am (it was like reading a great book you just can't put down) and until I couldn't stay awake any longer my mindset has changed. I just signed up, and am hoping for some advice from you all on my scope purchase.

 

I will be using either a Weatherby Mark V or Browning A-Bolt in a .300 mag. The gun will be used almost exclusively for hunting in the northern Lower Peninsula of Michigan for white tail, and other small game. The balence will be the ocassional trips out west for bear, elk, etc. Primarily most shots will be under 200 yds, with a mixture of dense cover and open fields.

 

Here is where I am at with the scope: The Busnell is out. I have narrowed down I believe to the Zeiss Conquest 4.5x14x44, Kahles CL 3x10x50 and Swarovski American 1" 3x10x42. Like I said earlier, I am a rookie. I would appreaciate any input, advice or criticism you, that are far more knowledgeable are willing to give. I am NOT concerned with price other than I would LIKE to stay under $1,200 for scope, mounts, rings, etc. if possible. Any input on mounts or for that matter the Browning or Weatherby purchase would be greatly appreciated as well. I think I have narrowed down to 3 good scopes, I just want to see your input if 1 stands out above the rest.

 

Thanks in advance for your input!!!

 

 

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Welcome to OT.

 

I would recommend a 3.5-10x44mm Zeiss Conquest. It would be more scope than you would need for hunting the area you described. A 3-9 Conquest would suffice as well. I like the added magnifacation of the 3.5-10 though.  

Wouldn't cost you out the wazoo either.

 

I had a stainless Conquest on a .300 Win mag Sako SS. Great setup for all my hunting.

The 4.5-14 Conquest is to much magnifacation for a hunting scope, IMO. Especially with a side focus. No AO or side focus for hunting scopes for me!!

 

I like Conetrol rings. But Talleys will do nicely.

 



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Thanks for the input!

 

You were one of the "usual suspects" I had hoped on getting a response from, based on my reading last night / today. I had wondered if I was over doing the magnification for my uses and potentially spending extra $ that could be better spent elsewhere (better quality, etc.).

 

Any comments / thoughts on my Browning vs. Weatherby decision? With the exception of Sig pistols, all my long guns have been Browning. Not that it's wrong, but kind of boring having all your eggs in the same basket I guess.

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Thanks for the compliment.

 

The Conquest is a great buy for many reasons. Laser etched reticle being one.

I'm sure it will suit you.

 

I have found 3-9 or 3-10 scopes are really ideal for most all hunting situations I have ever come across.

Better field of view also. Most all the animals me or friends have killed, the power ring was on 5x or less.   

 

I'm sure either rifle will serve you well.

My pick for best "out of the box" rifle these days is a Sako Hunter. Better rifle than the Weatherby or the Brownie IMHO.

But thats me.

 

I like adjustable triggers, metal detachable mags, and that incredible silky smooth action that a Sako has. Not to mention my Sako shot well under MOA with handloads.

 

Best of luck!!

 

 

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Had not even considered a Sako. I'll definetely take a look.

 

Again, thanks for the input. Exactly what I was hoping for.

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I am a big believer in the 3-9x40 Conquest for many of the reasons already listed.  It should serve you well and save you a few bucks.  If you really want to spend some money, I would look hard at the Kahles CL 3-9x42 with the multi-zero option.  I would consider the Kahles for long range out west type of hunting.  As far as rifles go, I am not a magnum guy.  But, if I wanted a .300 Win mag I would look at the CZ 550, Winchester Model 70, or consider the .300 Wsm in a kimber 8400.  I prefer these rifles over the previously mentioned simply because I really like Mauser style actions.  The above mentioned push-feeds are good and accurate, I am just biased.

 

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