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 I'm looking at the predator 12x40,although not listed here on swfa,they are around $250.my question is why are they so much cheaper than the other predator models?are they good binos for that much.I will use them for only hunting in very open sagebrush terrain where most animals are seen at 200 yards on average.would this be a good choice as i think i need higher magnification to see horns on the mule deer i'm hunting.our state has a 3 point minimum and my 10x42 burris binos just don't seem to be enough.is there any other binos you could suggest to me that would fit my needs for around $300?
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7, 8, or 10X would be plenty of magnification if you are using quality glass.  If the range is so great that you cannot ID points with these binos, you reqally need a spotting scope.  12X can be a problem for many users to hold steady.  Some 12X designs I can use just fine, others I really need a tripod.  I am guessing that the 12X Predators are probably porro rather roof prism designs.

 

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The advantages of the 12x40 poro prism bino's are that they are probably the lightest 12x bino's ( approx. 20 oz.). The Predator lens coatings really do work, however, as ranburr stated they are going o be difficult to hold steady. I would use the 8x30 Predators over the 12's any day of the week. Also the 12's have a narrower FOV buy about 100 feet @ 1000 ydrs. than the 8x30 Predators. As far as cost is concerned, it is less expensive to manufacture a poro prism than a roof prism. At 200 ydrs. as, ranburr stated a 7,8 or 10 should be all you need at distances you mentioned. The other Predators's you mentioned are the newer roof prism's ( 8 and 10x42 models) that utilize a much high grade of optical glass and much better coatings that are sandwiched under the Predator coating(s). They are Steiner's top of the line bino's. I don't know how optical glass is rated buy the makers, but, there are about 10 different grades of optical glass. That is a question better suited for Chris, Brady and the rest of the swfa team or buy koshkin or runburr. I own several pair Steiner's,and the 8x42'sSteiner Predator's are my new favorites. They also cost 4x as much as the glasses you mentioned. Remember that a high quality bino is a lifetime investment, so buy the very best bino's you possibly can, even if you have to wait for awhile.

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thanks for the info.I'm going to take roy finns' advice and make an investment in some high quality binos.never thought of it as a lifetime investment until now.once again thanks for the input
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