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Last summer I purchased a Weaver Grand Slam 3x10x40 from SWFA for my Rem ADL 30.06 and boy has it opened my eyes to what a difference a good quality scope can make in low light hunting situations. The only problem is that I now can't stand looking through any of the scopes on any of my other guns. I have 3 Tasco and 2 Simmons scopes on my other guns and they are all junk so I want to upgrade all of them. I need some help choosing them so could use some ideas. Here's what I am looking for:

 

1. Marlin 336 30/30. This is my wife's gun and she wants a fixed power. Want to keep this one under $200.

2. Savage .308. This is my son's gun and want to keep this one under $250.

3. Rem ADL .270. This is my other son's gun but I use it sometimes and want to keep this one under $350.

4. Rem 1187 Slug gun. Not sure what to go with here. Need some ideas and want to keep it under $200.

5. Mossberg bolt action .22. I am leaning towards a fixed power over a variable and want to keep it under $125.

 

I don't have any brand preference and just want good quality scopes both in durabilty and optics. I have looked at the Bushnell Elite 3200 and 4200's, Weaver K, Grand Slams and Classic Rimfire, Leupold new VX-II, Nikon Monarch, Burris Fullfield, Redfield Widefield and Zeiss Conquest scopes. They all are much clearer and brighter than anything I currently have but I am having a tough time making choices with so many options available. I have heard alot of nice things about the Sightron SII series but have never seen one. Any ideas or input on what would be my best options would be most appreciated.

 

I will also be getting new mounts and rings for all of these scopes and guns and could use some input on best mounts for these scopes as well. I used a one piece Leupold base and low rings for the Grand Slam last year and am very pleased with it but have heard that the Burris mounts and rings are better.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

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If you are pleased with the Weavers, stay with them.  They are very reasonably priced and all your scopes will function exactly the same.  If you do mix and match The only scope that you mention that I would stay away from is the Redfield Widefield.  These are not up to the quality of the other brands and they are living off of the reputations of the old U.S. made Refields.  From what I understand, Sightron is a good scope.  But, I have never seen one and I get around a little bit where optics are concerned.  They are not well represented and I have to wonder how good their customer service and warrranty work is.  There are a lot of lifetime warranties floating around from companies that are no longer in business.  As far as mounts and rings go, I think Leupold and Burris are both good.  Use whichever you like best.

 

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Ranburr is right on that one!  I don't get much hope in a guarantee.  A guarantee on a scope isn't going to bring back that 6x6 350 bull elk when your scope fogs up.  An optics guarantee wont' get back the $8000 you spent on a hunt or 10 years you spent applying.

 

For the American brands Weaver, Leupold and Burris have been arround a long time.  Burris is brighter Leupold has more eye releif.  Weaver is kind of in the middle.  They only recently starting making higher quality scopes.  Still alot of stigma against them.

 

Zeiss Conquest is great I have one in a 3-9.  Docter isn't sold here but they are brighter than Burris and Leupold both.  Like all European scopes they are "different looking".  They are in that same price range though if you want to Sprechen ze Deutch!

 

Nikon and Pentax are also great, and I think Fujinon makes rifle scopes if you like Japanese brands.  I think either Nikon or Pentax are made by Burris.  All 3 are top of the middle so to speak!

 

I would rank them Docter, Zeiss, Burris, Pentax, Leupold, Nikon, Weaver.  In that order.

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WEAVER IS NOT AMERICAN, how could you do that, lol, jp.

 

1. on my 336c in 35 remington, i have a the XS sight system, and the leupold 2.5 IER with 9.3" ER, and i love it, but its going to cost you about $270, but i would go with a fixed 4 power, of burris, leupold, or another equivalent (sorry, dont have my price book with me now to see what is in your price range, so im wigning it.

 

2. savage 308, go with the burris FF2 3-9x40 w/Ballistic plex, and free spotter for under 197.95.

 

3. same as the 308.

 

4. not sure about the 22, as i dont have my price book, but your going to want a A/O so you can adjust it down to 10 yds, or so, i would recommend a 3-9x40 over a fixed power, and a bushnell legend, or banner would work fine on it.

 

or, you can do as ranburr stated, and buy weavers, i am a weaver hater though, no specific reason, they are fine scopes, but i dont liek the name.

 

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Thanks for the responses.I am still trying to decide but as of right now I am leaning towards the following choices. Help me choose or any other options for better optics quality in a comparable scope would be welcome.

 

30/30     Bushnell Elite 3200 2x7x32, Leupold 4x33 which are both around $200. Weaver K4 or K2.5 which are around $110.

.308       Bushnell Elite 3200 2x7x32 or 3x9x40 and Burris FF2 3x9x40. All around $200

.270       Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5x10x40, Leupold VX-II 3x9x40, Weaver Grand Slam 3x10x40.

Shotgun Weaver V 1x3x20, Weaver K 2.5x20

.22         Weaver RV4 4x28, Weaver RV7 2x7x28 or Bushnell 4x32 or 3x9x32.

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I think that the best scope you mentioned was the Bushnell Elite 4200.

 

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I think the Nikon Monarchs might suit your needs regarding price points. Also think highly of the Burris scopes and especially their rings although I use Leupold rings also. I don't know that I would be as inclined as some to equip all the rifles with the same line as there are different shooters whose eyes may have different perceptions, however my rifles have the same style because I'm the only user. Scope specifications of one brand may be more suitable to a given application as well.
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