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pyro6999
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i'm not endorsing a 500 yards shot as i stated earlier, and i also stated earlier that i have seen it done before and i myself would not take such a shot
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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cheaptrick
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I just took another look at my post and wanted to clarify one thing.
My statement about Barnes X bullets being fickle was directed at the original X and the XLC. The TSX that slim likes has less complaints about accuracy in my AO.
Damn slim..... your so argumentative you give me a headache. You'd bitch if you got hung with a new rope. |
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If at first you don't secede...try..try again.
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jonbravado
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yeah, no one should be advocating shots like that - i don't think anyone did here, root.
go argue and preach somewhere else.
thank you in advance.
J
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Tip69
Optics Master Extraordinaire Tip Stick Joined: September/27/2005 Location: Nebraska Status: Offline Points: 4155 |
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In the words of John Wayne in "Big Jake"......... "shoot, I can't even see 500yards"
Root, you made your point.......... but you aren't going to change everybodies mind just by posting your wisdom here! Move on......... please
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take em!
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rootmanslim
Optics Professional Joined: June/04/2006 Location: Pinedale, WY Status: Offline Points: 557 |
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But I would make an exception on 500 yard shots if I saw an unattended ATV in the wilderness.
On the TSX, I have yet to see an accuracy complaint in any publication... in fact everyone is lauding it (rifle, handloader, precesion shooting, gunlist, G&A, Rifleman etc.) If you actually pony up the $, they are not cheap, and try them you will be happy. My 320 yard Antelope this year with the 25-06 and a 100 gr TSX was standing quartering away with his head looking around his left shoulder. the bullet went in behind the last right rib, destroyed the left lung, broke the left shoulder, exited and poked a broomstick sized hole thru his neck and is still flying. He took 2 steps and fell over. This is a load that puts 5 in one hole @100 yards. There is no need to do any more "load development" as much fun as that is. Try em' you'll be a convert |
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tahqua
MODERATOR Have You Driven A Ford Lately? Joined: March/27/2006 Location: Michigan, USA Status: Offline Points: 9042 |
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Kill it |
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jonbravado
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TSX is a great bullet -
but we're talking less than an inch variations at 200 yards on most factory loads. at least in my weapons.
last time i checked, the gearbox on a deer, antelope, etc is bigger than 2 -3 inches -
we're talking hunting, not papershooting. shoot in the 5x5 killspot and you are fine.
no one said the TSX was a bad bullet - WE UNDERSTAND.
J |
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rootmanslim
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And another benefit... ATV engine block penetration is superior to any other expanding bullet (goes thru both sides no ballistic evidence) that is also true if you are forced to deal with wolves and Mr Griz eating your stock, pets etc. but you don't want to deal with the USFS etc greenies.
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Trinidad
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Rootmanslim what is going on here? Remember what we talked about and agreed upon? |
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BNagel
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So shooting a small antelope at 320 yards is okay? Why did you not stock in on it and kill it with your knife. Man you are not a true hunter if you cant do that. My Buck knife is so superior to your Old Timer it is not even funny!
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Dolphin
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ok, I think I am going for the proverbial jugular on root. First of all, what are you? As I have said, some people do not have the luxury of stalking animals due to local laws. We have to be 8 feet above the ground. As a kid I did it and it was not hard. As far a long distance hunting is concerned, go to their website. I don't care if you do not like it. But around here, shooting or as you would say being a snipper deer hunter gets awful boring, taking shots out to 250 yards. With the rifles and scopes today, I only take those shots when I want meat in the freezer. I do not care that much about trophy bucks. Longest take was at about 500 yards this year with my 30-378 Wby. and it took one shot and fell where he stood. Yea, I practiced alot, but made sure what I was doing was correct and put alot of time and energy into the time when that shot was going to come up. I would not recommend a ya hoo running out without practice and knowledge of ballistics start cracking off shots at any animal at any long distance. But there are quite a few of us who find long range hunting, sorry to use that term, fun and actually intellectually stimulating. So, lay off the newcomers and go put on your camo and stalk some rabbits.
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BNagel
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Someone just got spanked. thanks Dolphin! |
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Dolphin
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No problem, he needed it.
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tahqua
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This works really nice @ 600 yards. Haven't had an opportunity for 1000 but it sure will do the job. It's only Hornady's, though. |
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pyro6999
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most of the time shooting an antelope is like shooting a beef cow, it just stands there and looks at you while its brains splatter all over, not a smart critter as i stated earlier!
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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tahqua
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And with that big 50 BMG and 36x Leupy that goat would look like it was standing 14 yards away at 500. In fact, if that goat was on the other side of the Honda, you could kill vermin and food with one shot.
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pyro6999
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if you hit a goat with a 50 i dont think you could find enough meat to even need a toothpick when you were done!!
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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rootmanslim
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Barnes also make a 50 BMG bullet.
Actually a 50 damages little meat if you stay away from big bones biggest problem is having a bearer to carry the monster. As to wearing camo to rabbit hunt.... it's not done unless you are alone and if you don't think rabbit hunting is hunting well then you just don't get "hunting". |
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jonbravado
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ok ok - root, do you work for barnes?
it sure seems that way.
and what kind of man shoots an antelope w/ a 50? that's twisted. funny, but twisted.
ok ok, i DID shoot a sqirrell w/ buckshot one time. but i still feel bad about it. i was young.
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Dolphin
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I wonder what root, huh that seems like an appropriate nickname, would think about us southern boys running dogs for deer hunting.
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