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I was wanting to upgrade to a pair of binoculars under $1000 but want to get the best I can for the money.  I looked at the new binoculars on SWFA and the Sample list and this is what I have come up with.  Would like to hear from anyone with suggestions on what would suit me best for deer hunting in the southeastern US.  The following is what I am considering

 

Zeiss Conquest either 8x30 or 8x40

Zeiss Victory 8x40 on samplelist

Pentax 8x43 DCF WP

Pentax 8x32 DCF WP

Swarovski 8x30 SLC samplelist

Swarovski 7x42 SLC samplelist

Leica Trivoid 8x32 samplelist

Leica Trivoid 8x42 samplelist

Leica Trivoid 7x42 samplelist

Leupold Pinnicales 8x42

 

Any others you would suggest would be appreciated.  I have a like new pair of Nikon Monarchs 8x42 that have never been out of the house.  Anyone interested in buying these IM me they are new in the box only 4 months old.  I sold some of my hunting stuff and now I have some extra $$ and I would love to move up in quaility binocular.  Thanks

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Of the ones you mentioned, I would rate them in this order.

 

Leica 8x32  first choice.

 

Leica 7x42  second choice

 

Swarovski 7x42 third choice.

 

I have a 8-10 year old pair of Trinovid 8x32 that are awesome optically and mechanically.  I also have a new pair of Trinovid 10x42.  Leica and Swarovski have the best glass of any that you are considering and Leica are built like a tank.  They will last a lifetime.  The 8x32 are my favorite due to size vs. performance.  The others you mentioned are all quality binos but if they last, and they may not due to hard use, I'll bet you will want to upgrade them eventually.  With Leica or Swaro, there is no need to upgrade.  The Zeiss Victory (non FL) are not that impressive to me optically.  The Pentax, Zeiss conquest are good, but I question their durability after years of use.  I have no experience with the Leupold.

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Thanks for the info T-Bone.  I have been wanting a nice pair of used Leica's 8x32 from the Samplelist but you don't see many of them go on there.  Thanks for your help!
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I'm with Tbone here. The 8x32's.

If you can get the Leica's, please do so.

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I will suggest either of the Zeiss Bino's you mentioned. They have a fully transferable lifetime warranty. The other bino's you mentioned are all great bino's but none of them have a lifetime warranty. If you are going to spend alot of money on optics look at the companys warranty on their product and that will tell you a whole lot about that product. Does anyone on the forum know why Leica and Swarovski does not have a full lifetime warranty on their optics because they are really great optics???
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To my knowledge both Leica and Swarovski carry life time warranty on their products. They are just not transferable like the Zeiss.  So it only covers who orginally purchased the binoculars or scopes.  There have been some pretty good stories of the BIG 3 (Swarovski, Leica, and Zeiss) taking very good care of their customers, which they should if you spend that kind of money.

 

My question to people who have losts of experience with the brands is, is there really much of a difference between the Leica Trinovid and the Swarovski SLC?  The only reason I ask is I plan on purchasing one or the other. I have experience with Zeiss and Leica from friends so I thought I'd be different and go Swaro, but if the Trinovids are better I may go that route.

 

 

 

 

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I was wrong on Leica and Swarovskis warranty. They offer a full lifetime warranty on U.S.A purchased products. They have recentyly started this because I know a few years ago that Leica's warranty went up to 30 years and Swarovski's was I believe 15 years. I went to their website for the info.

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Zeiss Conquest AB/K* 8X40

 

Don't bother with the Victory unless it is a Victory II.  The Conquest are probably the best low light binos in the list above.  The Trinovids and Swarovskis may give an overall better picture, but aren't quite as good in low light conditions.    At least this is what I have heard from other people that thave tested the top European binos. 

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Originally posted by Rusty Rusty wrote:

Zeiss Conquest AB/K* 8X40

 

You are recommending the Conquest's over that line up??

Or am I missing something??

 

 

 

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Originally posted by Acenturian Acenturian wrote:

My question to people who have losts of experience with the brands is, is there really much of a difference between the Leica Trinovid and the Swarovski SLC?  The only reason I ask is I plan on purchasing one or the other. I have experience with Zeiss and Leica from friends so I thought I'd be different and go Swaro, but if the Trinovids are better I may go that route.

 

I have been out of the bino loop for a few years, so please take that into consideration.

 

The "best" binos I ever looked through were the Nikon LX's.

I had the 10x42mm older versions, actually they were called Venturers.

I sold a Remington Sendero with a S&B scope to buy a set of good quality binos and went and looked at all the big names.

 

Everybody that looked through them said they were AWESOME!!

 

The new LXL's are very nice.

My only gripe with the older LX's, were that they were heavy and not very ergonomically friendly, like I felt the Swaro EL's were...are. 

 

Optically the Nikon's were superb.

The LXL's have shaved some weight off of the older ones and should be good to go. 

 

Best wishes, AC.

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