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Silver.................Although I have plenty of time to decide on a .375, I am favoring the Ruger 375 in the Alaskan version with its black Hogue stock and 20" barrel..........Big article on this rifle in the Dec. `07 "Guns Magazine" issue.  Made the front page too!!! Here are few reasons why I`m considering this rifle...............First! The Ruger .375 from the 20" barrel will duplicate and in some loadings exceed the ballistic performance of the more than proven .375 H&H from the longer barrel. The 375 Ruger case will hold 8 grains more water than the 375 H&H, which allows for more powder capacity..............Secondly! The Hogue over molded stock is impervious to any weather, gun oils, solvents, etc. You name it!!..............Thirdly! With the over molded stock, one need not worry about any wood stock splitting due to recoil should that occur.............Fourth! The over moulded stock is very grippy for the hands, whether in the heat with sweat, in the extremes of the cold or anything else in between!................Fifth! Ruger without a doubt, has one the strongest designs for a built-in scope base and ring mounts in the business.....................Sixth! Like my Ruger Frontier 300 WSM compact, the shorter barrel of the Alaskan .375 makes for easier carrying and faster target acquisition because the rifle`s OAL is only 40.5."  With my 6'3" in height, I can literally carry the Alaskan by its pistol grip, with my arms relaxed at my side, with the muzzle pointed to ground and not even come close to touching the ground!!! Try that with a full sized 24" or 26" tube!!!.................Seventh! I won`t need to worry about any scratches on the stock by leaning it against a tree, on some rocks or by accidentally dropping it. A real true rough it rifle!!!......................Eighth! The Ruger 3 position safety, I consider to be one of the best in the business......................Ninth! Available in the black matte ionized treated barrel for extreme weather conditions................She ain`t pretty but who cares!!! Not supposed to be! I look at function and durability!!! I`m not interested in taking furniture polish into the fields with the concern about  keeping my wood stock nice and pretty. And, I don`t want to be concerned having to be very ginger with a rifle in order to avoid stock scratching as I mosey through different terrains......................Although not quite ballistically as potent as the 375RUM, which is really not needed, I consider the Ruger Alaskan to be just as durable as the Remy XCR  with the additional advantage of being more compact!.........Put a Trijicon 1.5x4 on that Alaskan and what do ya got? One helluva quick acquisition DGR, moose rifle, big bear rifle, African plains rifle and any continent rifle!!!.................A CZ???  Nope!.... Besides! Everyone who has a big bore more than likely has a 375 H&H! I like to be different!!WinkWinkWinkWinkWinkWinkWinkWinkWink
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Bricat...................I may have previously mentioned this on another posting. In case I didn`t, there is an article about the 3x9 Trijicon in the Oct. `07 issue of "American Rifleman." The two main points to consider with this scope are its illuminated reticle and its ability for the shooter to keep both eyes open while targeting!
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Thanks Big squeeze and everyone else for the schooling on these smaller scopes and the Trijicons. God bless my optics hombres!Hug
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Originally posted by bricat bricat wrote:

Thanks Big squeeze and everyone else for the schooling on these smaller scopes and the Trijicons. God bless my optics hombres!Hug


I've said this before, but it bares saying again........this site has the best, simplest, and least biased scope info of anywhere on the internet. I say this after haunting campfire - AR - HA - and quite a few smaller sites thru the years. You would think that a site sponsored by an optics retailer would be the last place to see this, but its the best by far. You can express your honest opinion here and not get ganged up on or belittled. A varied group of posters with valid and hands on opinions about optics without the clicks that dominate most others. Ilya is also here to validate and add his deep optics background to the mix. OK I'll get off the soapbox but its eye opening to scroll down and see at any given time how many guests are browsing this site. THERES A REASON!

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cause we kick serious ass
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375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

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does that penquin really slap the other one or did you photoshop???
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funny either way

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I agree this is the best Optics site that can be found, and there's so much more here than just optics talk. alot of knowledge about a vast array of firearms related subjects.
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

does that penquin really slap the other one or did you photoshop???


Darn Dale.......you're taking the mystery out of it Smile I didn't photoshop it but my guess is somebody did......Wink with photoshop and gif making software you can do most anything.

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not trying to take anything away-- its really funny--- just wondering if humans have been reduced to birds or have penguins watched too much 3 stooges.
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I'm voting for the three stooges explanation LMAO
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NYUK! NYUK! NYUK!!
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So I guess the story I saved it from killer whales....hand fed it back to health........ and than trained it to slap unsuspecting penguins when the walked by would be a bit far fetched huh? I love the way the one that gets slapped is walking........kinda doot.....tadoot.....tadoot.....wham.....

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That works for me. Didn't say I believe it, but I like it. 
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yo get over here  before I bitch slap you!!!!!
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Back to scopes for a moment.

Urimaginaryfrnd is absolutely correct with his explanation of an exit pupil.  These small scopes are often very good in low light because of their moderate magnification.

As for field of view, while it is correct that at a given magnification the ocular is primarily responsible for the field of view, the objective lens also makes a difference.  As a general principle, with a larger objective lens it is harder to make a wide field of view without aberrations.  Therefore, in practical terms, you will almost always see scopes with large objective lenses have comparatively narrow fields of view (I once went through the effort of writing down a more detailed explanation on this forum and I can look for it).  As a practical matter if you compare 3-9x40 and 3-9x50 scopes from the same product line, you will notice that the larger objective scope has a narrower field of view.  While it is counterintuitive, there is a perfectly reasonable (although somewhat technical) explanation. 

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What would happen should you increase the size of the ocular proportionately, say the 40mm obj is using a 30mm ocular, then the 50mm obj was then using a 37.5mm ocular wouldn't the aspect then give an approximately simialar FOV?
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The ratio between the diameters of the ocular and the objective lens is not directly relevant to the field of view, I think.

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So then how does one achieve the FOV with a larger obj. I'm understanding of focal lengths, and basic optical science. I am very curious though. 

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It must vary with scope brand and product lines. I notice with the conquests the FOV with 40 and 50mm objectives is the same in 3.5x10 and 4.5x14 and larger with the 50mm in 3x9. With the 4200 elites its wider in the 2.5x10 in 40mm but the 4x16 is wider with the 50mm. It seems to go back and forth, and sometimes its about identical. Not debating the principal, just noting the differences in my favorites. I never really took the time to notice and compare before.

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