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Please, help me pick a scope off the sample list.  This will be the first quality scope I've ever purchased.


The rifle is a Savage Model-11 in .308.  My wife bought it for me last fall, and the Simmons scope that came with it is atrocious... by far the worst I've ever attempted to use.


Initially I was going to purchase a Leupold VXII 3-9X40 and take advantage of the free rings, mount, and shipping deal ($299.95).  All my friends that have decent glass, use Leupold, the others use the $40 Simmons stuff.  It's very hard (for me) to consider anything other then Luepold, when that appears to be the standard that all my knowledgeable shooter-buddies swear by.  The most prevalent argument they make for the Leupold, is that the eye relief is non-critical, and far better then the other good scopes.  They say that this feature is a big issue in the field, and lesser from a bench.  (I only bench shoot to calibrate my eyes and ammo, the rest of my shooting is in the field.) 


As I was browsing the SWFA website I noticed the "samplelist", and two other (non Leupold) possibilities appeared:



Burris 3-12x44 Signature Select Click for Picture 200616, Matte finish, 1" tube, ballistic plex reticle, fast focus eye piece, light ring marks. $722.00 $369.95




Weaver 4.5-14x40 Grand Slam Click for Picture 800475 Matte finish, one inch tube, dual-x reticle, adjustable objective, ring marks. $450.00 $299.95




In addition to quality differences, can someone enlighten me to the Warranty differences/reputations between Leupold, Weaver, and Burris?  I did my own research and the Leupold "Full Lifetime Warranty" seemed to inspire the most confidence in me, followed closely by the Burris "Forever Warranty", and lastly, the Weaver "Limited Lifetime Warranty". 



I realize it's impolite for me to drop out of the sky and expect help, but relatively few people I know are (in my opinion) knowledgeable enough to to comment on these scopes.  It occured to me that this message board has a great number of optics fanatics.


By the way, cost is a consideration... especially for this $400 rifle.  It is possible the rifle may get sold/upgraded someday, but if I have to spend $300-400 for a good scope... I don't want to make a poor choice, and I plan on taking the scope to the grave with me, so it needs to last (I'm only 28 years old).


Thank you for any enlightenment you can shine in my direction.


(P.S.>  I've already put several hours of research into finding the ideal value versus price, versus quality... and I think I'm on the right track.)  

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Either one is a good choice.  I prefer Burris, personally.  I think the glass on it is a bit better, but both are a definite step up from Leupold VX-II.  As far as warranty goes, I do not know much about Weaver's warranty, but Burris has a lifetime transferable warranty.  Leupold's customer service has a deserved reputatio for being awesome, but Burris has been improving and is quite good from what I hear.


Bang for the buck Weaver Grand Slam is awesome.  However for the samplelist price, I think Burris is the way to go.  Besides, I like the Ballistic Plex reticle, although it may not make any difference for you.  As for the ye relief, SIgnature Select has lots of non-critical eye relief and it also changes less with magnificatin thatn Leupold.  Grand Slam has shorter and less flexible eye relief than either Burris or Leupold.



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Look at these also:

5422 Leupold 2.5-8x36 Vx-III Click for Picture 57150, Matte finish, 1" tube, Boone and Crockett reticle, light ring marks, close to new condition. $594.00 $349.95
5326 Leupold 4.5-14x50 Vx-III LR Click for Picture 57170, Matte finish, 30mm tube, varmint hunters reticle, long range, side focus, very light ring marks. $944.00 $649.95

6506 Nikon 6x42 Monarch UCC Riflescope Nikon 6x42 Monarch UCC Riflescope
  • Gloss
  • Nikoplex
  • 1"
SWFA: $249.95
Nikon 5.5-16.5x44 Monarch UCC Riflescope Nikon 5.5-16.5x44 Monarch UCC Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Nikoplex
  • 1"
  • Adjustable Objective
SWFA: $419.95
LEU58620 Leupold 6x42 FX-III Riflescope Leupold 6x42 FX-III Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Wide Duplex
  • 1"
  • Index Matched Lens System
SWFA: $379.95
LEU56860 Leupold 3-9x40 Mark 4 PR Riflescope Leupold 3-9x40 Mark 4 PR Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Duplex
  • 1"
  • Target Knobs
SWFA: $399.95

Super Sniper 10x42 30mm Rifle Scope

Super Sniper 10x42 30mm Rifle Scope

Most of these should be close to your price range also and worth consideration. The pick of the litter is the 4.5-14 VXIII with varmit reticle but its probably more than you want to spend. The Super Sniper is a fun and tough scope and would be a good choice for $299.

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