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hi i have a reminton 30-06 modle 700 adl an it get wet lots when i hunt an i use wd40 on it an it still rust some on the barel an somtimes on the bolt my frind tol me to us carb clener to take of the rust then us reglar oil u buy in a store walmart is close by to me they have difrent oil wich do i us an will the carb clener help thanxSmile
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 If you have rust in places where you can't get at it, the best way to remove it is probably by electrolysis. 
  This is done by suspending the barreled action, minus the scope and stock, in a plastic bin with a special solution covering it. I think soda or some type of salts are used to make this solution, with distilled water.
 A lantern battery is connected to it with one wire and the other is connected to a chunk of scrap iron in the container. Leaving it connected for a few hours will cause every speck of rust to migrate from your gun to the scrap iron.
 Somebody here probably can fill in the details on how to do it right, or provide a link.
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hi and thanx ronk that sound like good advise but i dont unnerstan anyting u jest sayd is ther somthin i can get to spay on the rust to mak it go away insted of rigin up a electrcal cotrapshon im no electrican thanx?

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 You're right about that being a fairly complicated undertaking.  There used to be a product known as Naval Jelly (as in U.S. Navy), that was good for removing rust on ships and such.  I don't know if it's still available.
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Option C would be to send your gun to Walter Birdsong for a Black-T finish.  Rust problem solved for ever.......
 
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Now don't get Naval jelly and KY jelly mixed up......... your better half will be madder than a bothered Hornet!

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By U self some 4 ought steel wool at the Wal-Mart. Take dat der can of ole WD-40 an spray down dat ole smoke pole reel good. Sop up that WD wit that steel wool and rub that thing like Granny's good silver ware. Hit wont hurt the blue'en none atol. Rub hit till the rust is gone and keep her greased up from now on. It'll shine like a butter nife licked clean afore hist stuck back in the butter.
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Use a copper wired brush dowsed with oil and gently rub the rusted area until the rust is gone, after that use a silicone impregnated gun and tool cloth to protect your rifle. 
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Originally posted by cyborg cyborg wrote:

Use a copper wired brush dowsed with oil and gently rub the rusted area until the rust is gone, after that use a silicone impregnated gun and tool cloth to protect your rifle. 


This works pretty good too for protecting guns and fly reels.

http://www.corrosionx.com/


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Is this a new product Mike?
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No, it's been around a long time and is very popular out here in the West. It's excellent to use maintaining saltwater reels as well.
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AH yes I recall that stuff, I had a brain fart there.
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Now don't get Naval jelly and KY jelly mixed up......... your better half will be madder than a bothered Hornet!

 
( you also don't want to get loaded----I mean, AT A PARTY!!----and then come home and stumble into the bathroom looking for Vaseline and accidentally [ stupidly] grab Vicks Vapo-Rub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )      don't ask me how I know.....................Bucky
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Now don't get Naval jelly and KY jelly mixed up......... your better half will be madder than a bothered Hornet!

 
( you also don't want to get loaded----I mean, AT A PARTY!!----and then come home and stumble into the bathroom looking for Vaseline and accidentally [ stupidly] grab Vicks Vapo-Rub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )      don't ask me how I know.....................Bucky
 I know a guy who thought Vicks Vapo-rub might be an acceptable alternative to Preperation H at deer camp one year.
 Apparently it is not, and his hunting buddies still talk about how old Tim came flying out of the out-house, screaming in the most unearthly manner...
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OOOOH!!!!!!! OUCH
I hope ya'll take every opportunity to remind him.....Just in case, you wouldn't want him to go through that again.   LOL
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meat head, there are numerous ways to get the rust off as described above.  The bottom line is, how do you keep it from coming back.  That is what old Roy was eluding to and is not a bad idea.  That or some other type of protective coating.  Remember, wd40 also removes bluing and those areas should be touched up after removing the rust, at a minimum.  Birchwood Casey or products from Brownell's, cold blue, both almost identical in composition, an acid based solution, should be fine.  But, still bluing is not a great protective barrier, in contrast to popular belief.  Yes, it is better than untreated chromaloy steel, but given your problems, I would go with Roy's advice.
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That's exactly what I was eluding to in a nice way. Unless you spot rust at a very early stage, it will be an exercise in futility.
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Excellent point and idea.  Too many people wait too long before the problem gets out of hand.  My future son in law while we were bear hunting developed a little rust on his
Wby. Vanguard after a rain.  I told him multiple times to take care of it now.  Well, he kind of took care of it and by the next day, the rust had re-emerged.  I hope he has taken care of it again, because I have not seen the rifle since.
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I have been using Johnsons floor wax for years. Wood Barrel and all. This will not darken the wood and it gives the barrel water resistant finish Where the oil will put a film over any water drops making them slower to dry. The wax will not collect grit like oil and the action stays cleaner.
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Good idea.  I usually wax the metal of my rifles also, when I am waxing the wood for the same reason.  I am told that in the North, the ice that collects on the rifles just comes off with a shake and bump.
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This is the way I do all the guns I clean being mine or a customers.

I take ever part off the gun the can come off. I take the trigger assembaly apart. I let the parts soak in mineral spirits for about 10 to 30 minutes and the clean the with a brush very thuroly. Then I take and blow them dry with air. Then take all the parts and polish them with a 6 inch soft polisher. Then I take all the parts and oil them very heavly with a teflon based oil. Tehn I take and blow all the extra thats left off with the air and then wipe off all untill i have a light coat on all parts. Then put the rifle/pistol ect back to working condetion. I like teflon based over a silaca based oil as it dosen't hold grime and or get gummy if sitting in a closet or safe for any length of time not being used or let water get under it to start rusting. I took 2 old 22LR barrels and sanded them down to bare metal and then put a teflon based oil on one and a silica based on the other the silica based rusted in 2 weeks and the teflon rusted in 8 weeks. I would let them sit in water for a 12 hour period and then take them out for 48 hours and then repeat. I got board but it was an elighting test.
 
 
 
 
PM me and we can work something out on getting it done for you. I also have referances if need be.
 
 
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The best way to take off rust and not blueing is to use your fingernail and Break Free CLP.  Put a spot of break free on the rust spot or pit and rub it in with your fingernail.  Your fingernail will not take the blueing off but will scrape off the rust layer by layer.  The Break Free will soak in and slow down reoccurrence and your blueing will remain.
 
Lot of work though! 
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well im back fellows did any body miss me?Howdy  anyway, bigdaddy what kind of brush is a thuroly?
thank you guys for all the good advise it is very helpful i have seen the brake free before sakomato i believe i will try it a friend of mine said to soak the metal in the oil and then use a large pencil eraser to rub some of the rust of the metal i have not tried this yet what do you guy's think of this?  i will also try the wax on the metal to prevent rust but i need too remove the rust first before i can prevent more rust
I mite take my rifle to a friend of mine's machine shop where he can blast all the blueing an rust of the rifle and i can have it refinished again this time do a better job of keeping the rust of
dolphin ive never heard of wd40 removing the blueing before but i believe i will stop using wd40 now that you said that you guy's are so smart im thankful i have such a good place like this too go too so i can get such good advise
you mite notice my spelling is better than it was thats because my girl friend has been teaching me how two us a spell checker now my only problem is picking the write word from the choices the spell checker gives me from the list of words i hope my posts are easier to read now an i hope i dont sound quite so stupidBucky im just not an educated man an i did not realize how many words i miss spell but i think you all for being so helpful and friendly to me an not judging me far being such a dumb old red neck hill billy Bandito
thank you guy's very much again you are so smart an helpful and im grateful to have such good friends even if i dont no any of you an have never meet you before but you are the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Excellent
 
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Good idea.  I usually wax the metal of my rifles also, when I am waxing the wood for the same reason.  I am told that in the North, the ice that collects on the rifles just comes off with a shake and bump.
 
After my rifles are all cleaned up and ready to be put away, I rub some Renaissance Wax all over everything---wood, metal, scope exterior, etc.  It  may not appeal to you "low sheen--camouflage-type"  guys,  but I like it. It gives the rifle a protective film as well as a custom rifle shine.  You can get Renaissance Wax lots of places---I got my little can from Brownells.
If it's good enough for the British Museum in London ( they use it on all their exhibits), it's good enough for my Winchester! Wink  ...and Brownell's says it's the best!         --Ed   
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