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Hello all, new member here.


Just trying to get some suggestions as far as finishing my Savage 10FP for some "decent" range. When I say decent, I mean 500-600 yards, nothing major.


Right now, there's cheap stuff on it, but I want to upgrade. I was thinking of these for rings, the Weaver tac 6 hole pic rings


http://swfa.com/Weaver-Tactical-6-Hole-Picatinny-Rings-C3146.aspx


And the weaver one piece rail. Either that or an EGW.....unsure, suggestions?


http://swfa.com/Weaver-Tactical-Picatinny-Bases-C3145.aspx



Now one of my questions is on the base......I know there's 0 moa, and 20 moa available, back to that in a second, I need to decide on a scope first.......I can't decide on a fixed, or variable power. The price, and reviews draw me to the SWFA SS scopes.....the 10x42, the 16x42, or the 20x42? I know some folks can go out to 1k yards on a fixed 10x, I prob cant lol.

My next question, is if I go with a fixed SS scope, say the 16x42, would I personally prefer a 0 moa base, or a 20moa base? I know the 20moa's help with the extreme long range 800+

Not saying that I would never try and shoot that far, but it wouldn't be often. And from what I have been reading a 42mm obj lense would like a low set of rings?


Sorry for all the questions, i'm off to search around for a bit!
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I should also add that I already have a Harris bi-pod. And although I would like an illuminated scope, it's not required 
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I would either go with talley lightweight one piece ringmounts or if you want it to look tactical go with the TPS in either case if it says weaver and its a mount or ring avoid it. If you use the Super Sniper they have plenty of internal adjustment you wont need a plus 20 moa base. I would strongly recommend the 3-9 version and second choice for me would be the fixed 6x42.  The higher power ones are also good scopes but you will find that you are able to do more with lower power most of the time unless it is strictly a benchrest gun.
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For a beginner getting into shooting and using it for target only here would be a decent setup.  If you are planing on hunting with this, its a whole different ballgame
 
 
Rings & Base - SWFA SS-Tac 30mm / 1
 
SWFA SS-Tac 30mm / 1" Rings
Stock # - SS30L
  • Picatinny MIL-STD-1913
  • Matte
  • Low
  • 30mm
  • Comes with 1" Inserts
$34.95 
EGW Picatinny Rail 1 Piece Scope Mount
EGW Picatinny Rail 1 Piece Scope Mount
Stock # - EGW41000
  • Savage Round Receiver Short Action
  • Matte
  • 0 MOA
$39.95 
 
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SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope
Mil-Dot SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS10X42
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
$299.95 
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SWFA SS 16x42 Tactical Riflescope
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Stock # - SS16X42
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
$299.95 
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That's for the replies. 95% of the time, it's a benchrest gun. I have other rifles that I "hunt" with. This one is just a .308 paper puncher.



Any feedback on the Burris rings?


http://swfa.com/Burris-Xtreme-Tactical-30mm-Rings-P3673.aspx



I think for this rifle, I would prefer a fixed mount, as all of my shooting is done downrange. For some reason, I am really drawn to the 16x42 SS..........I like those SWFA rings though


I was just concerned that it wouldn't hold it's 100 yd zero with a 20moa base in case I get froggy. Hope that makes sense.
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The 0MOA is all you need they normally have plenty to get to 1000yds.  The SS rings are fine.  I have several sets and have never had an issue with them.  I have ran a 10X SS and 16X SS on a 20MOA  base on two guns and both where able to be dialed down to 100yds with some left over. 
 
Your in NC so unless you have private land or shoot at butner there aint' many places to get to a 1000yds or much past 300yds.  600yd ranges,  I only know of 4 ranges that go that far.  Where abouts do you shoot?
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My property :) I am blessed to own close to 100 acres in Western NC, and my neighbors that own the "lots" touching mine don't have houses....yet, and the owners live in Florida, and somewhere out west. I've only ever met one of them. So i'm lucky in that aspect. I don't get bothered, anytime, by anyone, I love it. I'm pretty much on the NC/TN line 
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I like those SWFA rings the more I look at them. If I got those, the EGW one piece standard length and the fixed 16x42, it's right at $420 delivered. Totally can do that!


I'll be so glad to get it done Big Smile
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still a 0MOA base will do all that a 308 is capable of.    One downside to a 20MOA base most don't think about is it sometimes puts the scope near its adjustment range to zero at 100yds.  Then if you leave it at that point most of the time then it "can" sometimes harm the scopes internals, this is not a guarantee only an senerio.  Buy equipment that fits your purpose for 99% of the time.
 
 
 
Another think that you may need to know is that all the magnification in the world won't do jack if your glass is not up to par.   The 16X SS is a decent scope for the money and i loved mine, that said I feel more confident using my 3-9 SS than i did the 16X  because the glass is so much better.  the 3-9 or the 10XHD would be a step up in glass by a mile.    You need to set a price range and we can say "scope X" would be the best in your price range and here is why.
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I didn't *want* to spend more than $500 on it all. But we all know how that goes :) 
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other than the SS10X and 16X I think the only other scope I would look at would be the vortex vipers on closeout.  There is the 4-12 and the 6.5-20, both good scopes and backed by world class customer service.
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Thanks.


Wonder which would suit me better. I get a kick out of shooting cans from my front porch on a rail post I have set up between 100 and 150 yds away. Wonder if i'd prefer the fex 10x, or the 16x



Descisions, descisions, thank goodness there's time :)
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I'd go for less magnification than more.  The 10X will be brighter and IMO for a new shooter more forgiving. 

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Noted.


What's the difference in the SS 10x42 for $299, and the 10x42M for $399? Sorry to ask so many questions, I just don't want to do this twice.



Nice board though, lots of good info. I moderate on a forum of my second love, motorcycles. Don't have any currently, maybe again one day :)
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Does "Millett" make decent glass?


http://swfa.com/Millett-4-16x50-TRS-1-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P8812.aspx
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Link failed lol



Anyway, it was the 4-16x50 TRS-1 tactical 30mm illuminated with 1/4moa adjustments
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The paralax/focus.  The $299 is on the eyepiece  where as the $300 is a side focus.  Both equally liked, both equally work.  Some prefer the side so they dont' lift thier head to look at the numbers, what you really should be doing is adjusting while looking through the scope not going by the numbers so the rear focus or side focus would either one work if you did the adjustments correctly.   
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millit was hit or miss, i have heard that they are better now but  if they did break they are warrantied through bushnell which has been miss or miss for customer service.  There are a few diehard millet fans but a lot more SS fans.  Plus Chris at SWFA stands behind the SS line way beyond whats necessary if its ever needed.  I say if ever needed cause they are tough as nails.  One member on here ran over his rifle and 10x SS with his truck, broke the gun but the SS is still going. 
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Nice. Thanks for the responses. I like to support people that support the sport. I can't seem to find any bad reviews on the SS stuff, and to have them reccomended in person face to face is nice to. I was asking one of the guys at the local shooting range, On Target and he suggested I look into them for the price I was wanting to stay under 
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IMO they could charge mroe for them and they would still be a bargin.
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

IMO they could charge mroe for them and they would still be a bargin.
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lol  Sorry.

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BTW here is a good thread to read.   may find it helpful
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

millit was hit or miss, i have heard that they are better now but  if they did break they are warrantied through bushnell which has been miss or miss for customer service.  There are a few diehard millet fans but a lot more SS fans.  Plus Chris at SWFA stands behind the SS line way beyond whats necessary if its ever needed.  I say if ever needed cause they are tough as nails.  One member on here ran over his rifle and 10x SS with his truck, broke the gun but the SS is still going. 

Good thing you said that
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

BTW here is a good thread to read.   may find it helpful

Very good discussion, saved that as a book mark for reference
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