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Gentlemen,
 
First off, let me know if this thread should be elsewhere. But Im stepping into totally unknown territory. In short, Im considering a night vision scope, something I considered toys for geeks and never thought Id spend money on. But hey...thats life.
 
Ive been trying to get foxes that rampage on my land viping out birdlife. They of course come out after sunset and even though I love my Trijicon with illuminated recticle, I dont stand a chance during night, also need to be able to indentify my target for safe shots.
 
So heres what Im hoping to get from a NV equipment;
 
1) be able to see movement at night out to ca 150yds
2) be able to identify a fox and take SAFE shots at 80-100yds.
3) to find a scope that is RELIABLE in wet conditions
4) .....and the best part - not costing more than 500$ Smile
 
 
So far the foxes are winning....but hopefully I can turn this around with some help.
 
 
Thanks for your time
 
 


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this kills you:

4) .....and the best part - not costing more than 500$

While I don't own any NVG yet, I have had a chance to hunt with it several times

The overwhelming conclusion I have got is don't bother with anything less than Gen3 which is WAY outside of your budget


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I cant recommend anything in that price range but if you find something good you should let me know Big Grin
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here's a thought...what about one of the laser genetics nd3's?
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How does this actually work? Is it like looking through a nightvision scope?
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  $500.   I think your Trijicon cost more than that.  NIght vision is expensive think about a green laser - the ND3 is like a long range flashlight with a focused laser beam.  It's like attaching a flashlight to your riflescope but better.   
AEO AN/PVS-14 Night Vision Monocular
Stock # - PVS14
  • PVS-14 Night Vision Monocular with Image Intensifier Tube - 3rd Gen.
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$3,799.95
Laser Genetics ND-3X40 Sub-Zero Laser Designator Laser Genetics ND-3X40 Sub-Zero Laser Designator
Stock # - LGND3X40SZ
  • Black
  • Green Laser
  • Comes with 1" Ring Mount Inter from 5/8" - 3/8"
  • Operates in Temperatures Down to 0°F
$449.95


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Save and get the pulsar its more but usable.
Pulsar Digisight N550 Riflescope Pulsar Digisight N550 Riflescope
Stock # - PL76311
  • Matte
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$1,399.95 


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I know several people that have tried the ND3s, no one has been that impressed in actual field usage


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I have a ELCAN night day/night hunter I will make you a GREAT deal on...

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If you do go with the ND-3, get the SubZero.  The regular one isn't worth &^%* in cold weather.  Bad call on my part.  Unless someone who lives in warmer areas wants to buy mine...
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The Laser Genetics is really neat, the Laser is adjustable dot is really cool. And is visible beyond 400 yards.
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It is not capable of properly spotting and indetifying an animal like a fox at 400 yards. Oops sorry Mrs. Wilson was that Tinkerbell? I could have sworn it was a fox. Laugh
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Hmmmm, according to this the 500$ budget is meaningless and GEN3 is the only way to go. OK, its better not to spend anything than spend on useless equipment.

 Thanks for your input though. Looks like the Fox wins the night war.
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used to go out and spot foxes all the time when younger, but then got married and that was the end of that
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Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

It is not capable of properly spotting and indetifying an animal like a fox at 400 yards. Oops sorry Mrs. Wilson was that Tinkerbell? I could have sworn it was a fox. Laugh


I guess I only recommended this because in the original post he specified 80-150yds which I figured would be right in the sweet spot for the ND3. Wondering where the 400yds came from all of a sudden.....
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Originally posted by biggreen747 biggreen747 wrote:

Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

It is not capable of properly spotting and indetifying an animal like a fox at 400 yards. Oops sorry Mrs. Wilson was that Tinkerbell? I could have sworn it was a fox. Laugh


I guess I only recommended this because in the original post he specified 80-150yds which I figured would be right in the sweet spot for the ND3. Wondering where the 400yds came from all of a sudden.....
The post right above mine where he stated, "The Laser Genetics is really neat, the Laser is adjustable dot is really cool. And is visible beyond 400 yards." I completely agree it will work for this application and is a good recommendation just don't want anyone expecting to spot a fox with it at 400 yards.
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Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

Originally posted by biggreen747 biggreen747 wrote:

Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

It is not capable of properly spotting and indetifying an animal like a fox at 400 yards. Oops sorry Mrs. Wilson was that Tinkerbell? I could have sworn it was a fox. Laugh


I guess I only recommended this because in the original post he specified 80-150yds which I figured would be right in the sweet spot for the ND3. Wondering where the 400yds came from all of a sudden.....
The post right above mine where he stated, "The Laser Genetics is really neat, the Laser is adjustable dot is really cool. And is visible beyond 400 yards." I completely agree it will work for this application and is a good recommendation just don't want anyone expecting to spot a fox with it at 400 yards.


Point Taken...........
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Slowly...but surely the discussion drifted well off topic. Sleep
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Unfortunately I don't think SWFA carries them, but check out ATN's first gen products.  I've not tried their weapons sights, but I do have a first gen monocular made by them and have been quite impressed with it for the price.
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Honestly $50 worth of traps will probably do more to fix your problem even though you may not get the same level of satisfaction.
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