New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Help deciding between scopes for 10/22
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Check GunBroker.com for SWFA's No Reserve and No Minimum bid firearm auctions.

Help deciding between scopes for 10/22

 Post Reply Post Reply   Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/05/2006 at 19:27
gdpolk View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: May/05/2006
Status: Offline
Points: 25
I am in the process of building a super sweet custom 10/22. At the moment I donít have money for optics, but I will be able to pull together all of my Christmas money and a little more for a good scope for my 10/22. I have found two scopes that seem to compete with each other as good candidates but first let my lay out my criteria.

(1)     AO is a must because I will use it anywhere from 10-100yds.
(2)     I donít mind spending money on a good scope to keep for a lifetime, but $300-$350 is about as much as I could spend. Possibly $400, but that pushes my budget and it would have to be a kick butt scope for that kind of money.
(3)     I donít want a huge scope, 45mm obj lens is as big as I would consider and would only go this big if it was an amazing scope. I would really prefer a 30-33mm obj lens.
(4)     I need a low power on the lower end 2-3x is best but could go to 5x and donít need super high power on the upper end 9-12x is the most I would ever use. Maybe if it was a 5x on the low end I would consider going up to a 15x high.
(5)     I would lean towards a lighter scope if given the choice, but be realisticÖNo-one will tell a difference between 1-2oz heavier or lighter on an 8.5lbs gun.
(6)     I want optical quality. A clean, crisp, bright image is something I am interested in so donít even suggest something like a BSA airgun scope because they arenít the quality I am looking for.
(7)     I want build quality. I want a scope to last a lifetime. I donít want to replace it but if I have to, I would want it to be a warranty replacement Ė not a drop another $300-$400 type of replacement.

From what I have gathered on this site I have found these two options but am not limited to just these two, let me know what you think, if there are any others I should consider and do a comparison between the two if you can.

Burris 4-12x32 Compact Rimfire / Airgun Scope w/Ballistics Plex rectile for .22lr
Leupold 3-9x33 VX-II Rimfire E.F.R. Riflescope

Thanks,
Garrett
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/06/2006 at 05:18
silver View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master


Joined: November/04/2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2291

 

 

You have some conflicting statements.  I suggest that you write out a mission statement for the rifle and define what the rifle will be used and not used for...

 

BTW, the Ziess conquest 3x9 now fits in your stated budget.  I would not get hung up about a .22 scope or AO for the ranges given.

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/06/2006 at 10:52
Dale Clifford View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Knight
Optics Jedi Knight


Joined: July/04/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 5087

Weaver makes some out standing 22RF scopes, and if you want to go more Leo's 6.5x20 EFR is outstanding although out of the mag you want. Look at Leo 3x9 EFR (although not AO) as you suggest. Besides being corrected for distance EFR will give less eye strain when used for long periods of time, as those 500 rd brick shoots go, so yes they are a better way to go. On the surface the burris ballistic plex sounds like a fun thing at 100 yds. But I have yet to find 22.lr velocities coincide with accuracy. The testing to find the most accurate brand for your gun and having it be the same one that works for the reticle-well good luck.

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/07/2006 at 00:03
gdpolk View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: May/05/2006
Status: Offline
Points: 25
Thanks for the info on the Weaver, I may consider this as an option too. Somehow I skipped over it; probably because I have never looked though a Weaver so I just put it in with the odd-ballers that I know nothing about.

I fully understand that the Burris ballistic plex rectile stands a 99.999% chance of not working as advertised. There is just no way that any mass produced rectile will hold true POI shifts for ALL .22lr ammo in ALL guns. There are too many variables like bullet, barrel length, bore tightness, and even if you go extreme things like temp and altitude also affect it on a minor scale; so for this to be a realistic expectation that the B-Plex rectile will work AS ADVERTISED is ridiculous. But, it is not logical to understand that the ticks will serve as POI reference points at a given distance for any gun/ammo combination that you can think of. And, if you know through minor testing what these distances are that coincide with the multiple aim-points, then you will be able to use your gun more effectively read you more precisely at various ranges. This added ease of having multiple aim-points for several different distances is the main reason that I like mil-dot or type scopes but the b-plex is essentially a fancy mil-dot but better. The reason I say it is better is because the spacing between tics increases more and more as the distance reference is increased, so the ticks would follow the path of the bullet in roughly the same yardage increments when a regular mil-dot will not.

Garrett
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/07/2006 at 12:36
Dale Clifford View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Knight
Optics Jedi Knight


Joined: July/04/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 5087

The "ballistic holdover" built into a ballistic plex or Leo varmiter or an ACog is very approx. The advantage of mildot is that the (if it is a good scope-some mil dot scopes are hopelessly off) distance between the intervals is known in the reticle, you don't know what they are in ballistic plex. (unless you take the time to set up known markers at set distances measure the distance then mark your power ring (such as leo does). This mildot is then converted and "dialed in" at 1/4 MOA or 1/10 MOA (on nightforce) and is very accurate. Using a mildot for hold over can be done (and probably a lot for "non-institutional" users), but it is not the technically correct method.

In any regards, check out the new scopes from Micky Fowler which are 3x9 FFP and have a "tactical milling recticle" which sounds more like what you are looking for. (I think is is Pride-Fowler)

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/08/2006 at 22:33
gdpolk View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: May/05/2006
Status: Offline
Points: 25
I just came into possesion of a decent scope that will work for my target shooting but not my plinkin needs thanks to my grandfather upgrading one of his competition rimfire gunís optics. So, I am now looking for a red dot sight and will be mounting both my new scope and my red dot in ARMS throw lever quick detachable rings so that I can switch between a target scope and a plinking red dot. Should I go with the Aimpoint 9000 because it doesnít require the dot to be centered. Or should I get an Ultra Dot MatchDot sight because it has variable sized dots (2,4,6,8 MOA), a polarizing filter for extra bright days, and a lifetime warranty as opposed to the Aimpointís 10 year warranty?
Thanks,
Garrett
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Similar Threads: "Help deciding between scopes for 10/22"
Subject Author Forum Replies Last Post
Help selecting a scope of my 10/22 Target Mike Hammer Rifle Scopes 1 4/20/2004 4:31:01 PM
Help with Ruger 10/22 Magazines Bboy623 Reloading & Ballistics 8
Help Me Decide Between Kahles 8X42 and 10 Capphd Binoculars 7 1/8/2006 8:54:43 AM
Ruger 10/22 scope richethec Rimfire / Airgun 1
Scope for Ruger 10-22 Pach255 Varmint Scopes 17
Ruger 10/22 scope ? NDhunter Rimfire / Airgun 4
Need Scope for Ruger 10/22 Target triggerfingers Rifle Scopes 0
Need Scope for Ruger 10/22 Target triggerfingers Rimfire / Airgun 3
Opinions on Scope for a 10/22 Big Dog Rifle Scopes 11
10/22 scope options mil169 Rimfire / Airgun 9


This page was generated in 0.250 seconds.