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hello, i want to put a scope on my 3006 rifle and couldn't decide which is a better choice. they are: zeiss conquest 3-9x40, burris short mag 3-9x32, nikon monarch ucc 3-9x40, leupold vx3 2.5-8x36, and leupold euro 3-9x40. they are in the similer price range, which one would you pick? thanks.
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Welcome to the opticstalk forum.

 

Boy, get ready for a steady diet of enlightened opinions. The scopes you have selected are all tops in quality.

 

Based on what I've read over the weeks on this forum, you will get a number of votes for the Conquest, the VXII and the Monarch.

Burris has had great reviews but I'm not sure about the shorties. The Signature Select has been rated right up there with the Nikon and VXIII.

 

OK, now for my opinion.... VXIII is a great scope but I believe you're paying about 20% for the name. Nikons have great glass and a lot of support in this venue but I've had two custom gunmakers say they don't hold up to recoil.

Of course, guys who build $3K guns want to sell $1.5K scopes.....

Burris Signature Select or Zeiss Conquest would be excellent choices. Buy one and don't look back.

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thanks for the info. what about the leupold euro? what model is it? a vx3, vx2? it has a 30mm tube. would it be a better choice over the conquest? both are 3-9x40 but this one has 30mm vs 1" tube.
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Judging from the price point of the Leupold Euro it is in the VXII class. If you look at the VXIIIs with 1-inch tubes they're significantly higher.

A 30mm tube gives you more adjustment range, something beneficial for long range shooting. But a larger tube does not mean that the lenses are larger.

I questioned Burris' technical department and they said that the lenses in their Signature Select 1 inch and their Diamond Euro 30mm tubes are all the same. And, the Burris Signature lenses are larger than most other manufacturer's lenses for 1 inch scopes.

 

As for the Zeiss, I was told by a rep at the Dallas Safari Club show that the Conquest's components are made in Germany and the scopes are assembled here in the States, I think the Atlanta area. Labor is cheaper here than Germany. SWFA offers the Zeiss for $399.95. That's a great price for a German quality scope.

 

While a newbie to this site, I have done a lot of trial and error, bought cheap scopes and tossed them, and am upgrading all my rifles to better optics.


Hopefully you will receive good feedback from Chris at SWFA and Koshkin and the other Masters who regularly post here.

 

That's my $.02



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Conquest is hard to beat if you are looking for top glass for ~$400.

If you want something really light weight consider Leupold VX-III 2.5-8x36

Burris Signature Select is an excellent scope and has an advantage of an available holdover reticle (both Burris and Conquest are pretty heavy).

Burris Short Mag scopes are small and compact and offer a lot of eye relief.  If you are putting this on a kicker this is not a bad option.  However, you pay with a narrower field of view.  Short Mag glass is a little worse than Signature Select.

Leupold Euro is a VX-II in a 30mm tube.  Of the ones you list it has the worst glass.

Nikon Monarch is decent scope and it competes well against the VX-III and Signature Select.

Personally, I am partial to Burris scopes (Signature Select would be my pick), but this really depends on what is most important to you.

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Depending on how you are using it, say hunting in low light conditions at distances over 50 yds, I would go for the Burris with the 40mm objective. It will gather more light and offer more clarity.

If you are woods hunting and will be taking quick shots, I would choose the smaller objective because that's just the way I am.

I like what Hondo said about the Leo's being overpriced and I would have to agree.

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Conquest.

 

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OK,

 I'll chime in. I'll go with David and Ranburr.

 I have gotten to shoot the Conquest towards O'dark thirty, at low mag, and it impressed the heck out'ta me. 

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thanks for all your reply, looks like conquest is the winner here, i will go get one.
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