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I've never been into the entire black rifle thing, and never used a red dot scope on any of my other guns. While at the gun shop, though, I saw the new Colt M4 Ops in .22lr, and decided to bring her home. So now I would like to get a red dot scope for it to co-witness the front sight. A few things I need to know, though, are:
1) What is the parallax setting? I need it to focus down to 15 yards for the indoor range.
2) How long is the battery life?
3) How good is the quality?
 
$300 is the most I'd spend for a magnified model, so I've been looking at these two:
 
New Burris 3x32 AR Tactical Sight Ballistic CQ New Burris 3x32 AR Tactical Sight
Stock # - 300208
  • Matte
  • Ballistic CQ
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Truglo 2x42 Dual Color Red Dot Sight Truglo 2x42 Dual Color Red Dot Sight
Stock # - TG8030MB2
  • Matte
  • Multi-Reticle
  • 38mm
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If either of these can't focus down low enough, then how about this for a 1x magnification:
Bushnell 1x32 Trophy Red Dot Sight Red / Green T Dot Bushnell 1x32 Trophy Red Dot Sight
Stock # - 730132P
  • Matte
  • Red / Green T-Dot
  • CR 2032 Battery
  • Weaver Style Rail
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If none of those fit my requirements, does anybody have any other suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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I've used many, many "red dot" optics, but none of those.

Why do you want or need magnification on a 15-yard range?

My recommendation for a red dot in that price range would be the Burris Extreme Tactical or the Vortex StrikeFire.  The Burris is a 1X scope (no magnification) and the Voretex comes with a 2X add-on that can be screwed into the ocular end of the optic.

The Bushnell is probably fine for your purposes - again, can't say, haven't used it, and the Burris 3x32also.  Battery life on those should be decent, probably somewhere in the ballpark of 10-100 hours.


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Sorry, I should have been clearer, there. I want to be able to go down to 15 yards while at the indoor range, but the ability to go longer when shooting outdoors. I just don't want to have to get two red dots (one magnified and one not) and switch between the two. I figure a 2x or 3x would not be overpowering at 15 yards, so it should fit the bill for both.
 
I was looking at the Vortex, but it has the parallax set for 50 yards. Now, I dont' know if that is the 1x or the 2x screw in piece. If it is for the 1x, I imagine that it would be too fuzzy at the closer range. I know my Nikon Monarch reticle scope was, and that is a very high quality piece.
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I wouldn't worry too much about the parallax. 

I regularly shoot red dots out to 300 yards without difficulty.  It is not a "surgical" shot, but hits aren't a problem.

If you want magnification, being able to screw in the Vortex 2X is a nice thing (I guess), the other options might also be good.


Let us know what you get.
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I have a Vortex and you can see up close just fine with it.  15 yards would be just like using iron sights.  Most true 1x redots are just like looking through a blank tube with a dot in the center.    In fact if you want one I have mine for sale here. 

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16262
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Thanks for all the imput. I decided to go with another red dot w/ magnifier not sold here, so they will go nameless.
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