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First of all hello. Im 40 and have been shooting since I was in the cub scouts with my crossman 760. Most everything Ive owned has iron sights with the exception of my mini14 with the bushnellholosight(love it).   So having never owned a quality scope,I came here to learn.
 
 Heres how I got here,realising my dream of a rock river in 308 wasnt going to happen any time soon,I bought a remington700 sps tactical in308.Very happy with that decision so far.
 How ever I need a  good scope. I like the ss 10 power but have a few questions,
 
              Are there any disadvantages to a fixed power scope?How is it at closer ranges?
              can I get a list of accessories I will need with it such as suggested rings and mount?
              Any advise is appreciated and I cant wait to get this rig built!I will post pics when its done.
            
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Target shooting or hunting will make or break the SS.  If you are target shooting it is wonderful.  If you are hunting it is not so good as 10x is to much for really shooting anything moving under 100 to 150 yards or so.

They have all kinds of accersories for it, and it is a tough as nails scope which will serve you well.
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 I might be ok with that,I have  other rifles that are only good at closer ranges.That is good information for me to consider.
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If you're interested in a fixed power scope check out "Best all around fixed power?" going on now the Rifle Scopes thread.  Whether you're in the market for a variable or fixed, there is a bunch of good info under that thread.

 
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Ill check it out.Thanks!
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Check out my posting under "Super Sniper or Millett".  I recently bought the Remington Model 700 Police Sniper, and I asked the same questions that you did.  I have been around guns for a really long time, the last 10 years on the "Tactical" side of the house and really want to learn to shoot out to 1,000 yards ( working my out that is...LOL)  But check it out there is some good data there!
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If you are going to try and hunt with it I'd mount a Nikon 3-9x40 Team Primos in Tally Lightweight rings.

If it's a target rifle and can swing a Nikon Monarch in 4-16x42 it would be a great choice. If you can't swing the Nikon then a Weaver V16 4-16x42 is a pretty good scope and the 4x setting is still practical for the field. Burris's Signature rings would be a nice choice. DedNutz would be another good choice for rings.

If you're looking for more of a compromise between hunting and target shooting you might also look at a 3-12x42.




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Thanks Five and Sholling.

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I have a 10x Super Sniper on my .308 and  I added Kenton knobs which I like as you can adjust for distance quite easily. http://www.kentonindustries.com/pics/picbytype/


TASCO



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As for base and rings the  Super Sniper  has a lot of internal adjustment so you do not need plus moa in a base but it doesnt hurt to buy a Badger Ordnance base with plus 20 moa and  Badger Ordnance  30 mm medium high rings that way if you decide to upgrade to a better varialble power tactical scope in 50mm you already have a base and rings that will work.  If you can afford to spend more on the optic here is what I recommend.
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While these may seem quite different they are both very good quality and worth consideration if you can afford them.
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If you do not want to put a lot of money in rings and base I would put on a Leupold dual dovetail base and rings they are bullet proof - can not come out of adjustment.
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Originally posted by sholling sholling wrote:

If you are going to try and hunt with it I'd mount a Nikon 3-9x40 Team Primos in Tally Lightweight rings.

If it's a target rifle and can swing a Nikon Monarch in 4-16x42 it would be a great choice. If you can't swing the Nikon then a Weaver V16 4-16x42 is a pretty good scope and the 4x setting is still practical for the field. Burris's Signature rings would be a nice choice. DedNutz would be another good choice for rings.

If you're looking for more of a compromise between hunting and target shooting you might also look at a 3-12x42.


Not to kick anyone off their bar stool but, if you are going to use it for tactical purposes or any sort of long range the Nikon is not a good choice. The Nikon Monarch plus a 20 MOA base still has only half the adjustment of a Super Sniper without a 20 MOA base. The Super Sniper has roughly 120 MOA total in the scope alone. The Nikon Monarch has 40 MOA. If you plan on shooting long distances and using the NIkon you will have to have a 20 MOA base no questions asked.
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On top of what CF2 said, with only 40 MOA total of the Nikon and you add a 20 MOA base you will probably not be able to get a 100 yard zero either.  Maybe not even a 200 depending on on how the scope is set up on your rifle and how your rifle shoots.  That is not a good scope for long range shooting at all. 

Optimally if you want to shoot a .308 to 1000 yards you need a scope with around 65 MOA internal and add a 20 MOA base to that.  That way it will be able to accomplish anything you want it to do, from 100 yards to 1000 yards. 
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

On top of what CF2 said, with only 40 MOA total of the Nikon and you add a 20 MOA base you will probably not be able to get a 100 yard zero either.  Maybe not even a 200 depending on on how the scope is set up on your rifle and how your rifle shoots.  That is not a good scope for long range shooting at all. 

Optimally if you want to shoot a .308 to 1000 yards you need a scope with around 65 MOA internal and add a 20 MOA base to that.  That way it will be able to accomplish anything you want it to do, from 100 yards to 1000 yards. 
Very true Sorry I forgot to mention thanks for watching my back Jason.
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Im starting to see what you mean my Unimaginary friend. And,if I get the good base and rings,Im versitle for future options.
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