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I wanted to say Hello and that I tried to search before posting, without luck.

 
I'm looking for advice on two scopes. For various reasons, I have essentially eliminated likely competitors and am considering a Leupold VX-R and the Weaver Tactical 3-15. I think they are peers in most respects, and both seem to be highly-regarded at their price point(s). The biggest differences are I think the VX-R has a target-type turret only on the CDS and is SFP, where the Weaver has FFP and MIL/MIL.
 
Intended use is primarily hunting shots to no more than 300 yards, unless I traveled to hunt something exotic (unlikely), and target shooting to 500 yards as a reasonable goal. I don't have the land for a longer shot than that, but if opportunity to try was available, I'd certainly give it a try.
 
So, I'd like to know if one suggests itself more than the other for what I'm intending. Anything else you might want to know, feel free to ask. Thanks in advance!
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If you are going to be ranging targets and using the reticle for drops the FFP is going to be much better and user friendly. I'll let someone else comment on glass I have no experience with these two Scopes. I would take a look at Vortex PST's aswell if you like Vortex.
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I think the VXR and weaver tactical will be on par with each other.  The PST right there with them.  I've got a PST in 4-16 and had the VXR Patrol 3-9 and was fortunate to use a weaver tact a few weeks when they first came out.  I would rate them all very close together.  All that said I'm still using the PST and have gotten rid of the other two.  Another good option to look at is the SWFA SS 3-9, probably the best overall scope I know of for price and feature, mine will not leave me
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Thanks for the replies. The PST; I have read of some dissatisfaction with them. More than with the two I mentioned. Conversely, there is probably a lot more PSTs out there, so it stands to reason there might be more complaints. Perhaps I need to reconsider, if nothing else than Vortex' well-regarded warranty/service. And the SWFA SS is much the same story.
 
I'm in a rural area, so I don't have opportunity to look at some of these, first-hand. And I'm a few hundred miles south of SWFA, unfortunately. And Yes, I would like to try ranging rather than relying upon holdover. So I am relying to a degree upon feedback.
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I'd take the SS over the PST unless you really want more mag than 9X

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I have owned the SS 3-9, the VXR 3-9 patrol, and the weaver 3-15. They are all good scopes, at the end of the day its up to you to decide based on your needs. If it was 90% hunting and 10% target i would go with the VXR. If it was 90% target and 10% hunting i would go with the SWFA SS or weaver (or maybe PST?). 
Also what are you trying to hit at 500yds and what kind of rifle is this going on? If youre like me im shooting large steel targets at longer range the 9x is plenty good enuf and my hunting is limited to less than 200yds. The extra mag on the weaver would be helpful if youre trying to shoot real small targets or if this gun is mostly a target gun. 

My two cents  - Havent owned the PST so i cant comment. The weaver 3-15 is a big heavy scope and would not be my first choice for hunting rifle from 0 to 300yds but is great for target shooting.
VXR Patrol - The VXR has a very thick reticle, it is somewhat difficult to tell the difference between the 1/2mil and full mill marks if speed is required on holdovers (i wish they would have used mil dots on the full mil marks) , it has great illuminated dot that is functional in very low light, the turrets on the VXR are low profile, the turrets dont have the most positive clicks but are ok, the VXR is somewhat limited in elevation but is fine for your use, glass is good enuf for me. 
SWFA 3-9 - The SS has a better reticle for target shooting and holdovers, the difference in half mil hashes and full mil diamonds make it easy to tell where you are at when holding, plenty of elevation, more positive feeling clicks on turret, in most hunting conditions the reticle is visible, under real low light its not going to be your first pick tho, glass if good enuf for me.
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Originally posted by lumberjack149 lumberjack149 wrote:

I have owned the SS 3-9, the VXR 3-9 patrol, and the weaver 3-15. They are all good scopes, at the end of the day its up to you to decide based on your needs. If it was 90% hunting and 10% target i would go with the VXR. If it was 90% target and 10% hunting i would go with the SWFA SS or weaver (or maybe PST?). 
Also what are you trying to hit at 500yds and what kind of rifle is this going on? If youre like me im shooting large steel targets at longer range the 9x is plenty good enuf and my hunting is limited to less than 200yds. The extra mag on the weaver would be helpful if youre trying to shoot real small targets or if this gun is mostly a target gun. 

My two cents  - Havent owned the PST so i cant comment. The weaver 3-15 is a big heavy scope and would not be my first choice for hunting rifle from 0 to 300yds but is great for target shooting.
VXR Patrol - The VXR has a very thick reticle, it is somewhat difficult to tell the difference between the 1/2mil and full mill marks if speed is required on holdovers (i wish they would have used mil dots on the full mil marks) , it has great illuminated dot that is functional in very low light, the turrets on the VXR are low profile, the turrets dont have the most positive clicks but are ok, the VXR is somewhat limited in elevation but is fine for your use, glass is good enuf for me. 
SWFA 3-9 - The SS has a better reticle for target shooting and holdovers, the difference in half mil hashes and full mil diamonds make it easy to tell where you are at when holding, plenty of elevation, more positive feeling clicks on turret, in most hunting conditions the reticle is visible, under real low light its not going to be your first pick tho, glass if good enuf for me.
I like the way you proportioned the bias on hunting/targeting by scope type. This is an all-new setup, and will likely end up quite heavy-Savage action/McRee chassis/26" varmint barrel. It will have a couple extra barrels, and they'll range from 6.5 Grendel to the primary caliber of 7 WSM. This rifle will likely be 60% hunting (from stand)/40% targeting. I have a 700 as my stalking rifle.
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