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    Posted: March/16/2013 at 04:48
I have a friend who needs a new scope. Since there are some people in here with a lot of knowledge of optics I wanna ask what is better.

Look out for a good price on a secondhand Swaro Habicht

Or a new Zeiss Duralyt.


I guess the mag should be 3-12x50 which they both have.
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And maybe he should just get the 3-10x50 Meostar that i got too.

But really, I have never looked through any Swaro og Zeiss to tell if they are better than the Meopta.

Neither has he..
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I would suggest secondhand Habicht. Duralyt is not robust enough in my opinion and Meostars have yellow tint in most examples.


However I would suggest to your friend that it checks out also Kaps and Docter scopes in this price class. Better optics, great warranty and you can get then new for the same price.


 

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Originally posted by De_Tomaso De_Tomaso wrote:

I would suggest secondhand Habicht. Duralyt is not robust enough in my opinion and Meostars have yellow tint in most examples.


However I would suggest to your friend that it checks out also Kaps and Docter scopes in this price class. Better optics, great warranty and you can get then new for the same price.


 


What "robustness" exactly are you mentioning.  Your statement is arbitrary...
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Duralyts I've handled seem very well made. So I can't see why you would have any issues with them.
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Teodor, what is this yellow tint you talk of ?
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He has limited his choices to two.

The one is a new Duralyt 3-12x50

And the other is a second-hand he found it is S&B Klassik 3-12x50.

The S&B will be a little bit cheaper than the new Duralyt.

What do you think?
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Duralyt 3-12x50 No doubt...
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by De_Tomaso De_Tomaso wrote:

I would suggest secondhand Habicht. Duralyt is not robust enough in my opinion and Meostars have yellow tint in most examples.


However I would suggest to your friend that it checks out also Kaps and Docter scopes in this price class. Better optics, great warranty and you can get then new for the same price.


 


What "robustness" exactly are you mentioning.  Your statement is arbitrary...


None of the Docter or Kaps scopes I have handled ever lost zero or had to be sent back to factory due to the tracking problems. I can not say the same about the Duralyt scopes. This was what I have meant! Second thing was that Docter and Kaps scopes are FFP and Duralyt scoeps are SFP. As a general rule of thumb is that FFP scope endure more than SFP scopes.


Similar applies to Habicht scopes vs newer Z6i scopes. Warranty claims on Habicht scopes (even if they are old) are really rare and in my experience many of them serve well even after 30 years or more.  



 

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Originally posted by coyote95 coyote95 wrote:

Teodor, what is this yellow tint you talk of ?


I have seen some Meoptas that have a little yellow overtone in their colors. If you look at the sky you see it is not totally white but a bit yellow. Similar effect can be seen on old russian porro binoculars 7x50 or really old Kahles and Swarovski scopes (4x32, 6x42) from the 50ties and 60ties. 


However I have to be fair and say that not all Meoptas I have seen show this effect.

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Kaps is sold by a different brand name in the U.S. Look up EUROPTIK. Don't want to break the rules and post a link to the web site. Personally, I think they are priced too high considering that they would likely have to be sent overseas for repairs. JMO. BTW, if you forget the P and google eurotik, you will get interesting results.
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Kaps is sold by a different brand name in the U.S. Look up EUROPTIK. Don't want to break the rules and post a link to the web site. Personally, I think they are priced too high considering that they would likely have to be sent overseas for repairs. JMO. BTW, if you forget the P and google eurotik, you will get interesting results.

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If you want a scope that has to go overseas for service, get Kahles and they won't (go overseas that is) at least my two haven't.  Of those choices the Habicht scopes are very tough and well made.  I have a 4-12x50 for 12 years and it has held up very well.  I have not owned a Duralyte but the (4) Conquest (US built) scopes that I have owned were very tough.  I had my 2.5-8x32 Conquest on a .340 Weatherby for awhile with no issues and I shot that rifle a lot.  The Habicht has been on a 7mm Rem Mag for 10 years with no issues.
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I also have a Habicht on a steyr 300 win Mag. It has taken a lot of deer. Absolutely no problems and excellent dusk hunting capabilities.

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Both are great choices.  I would pick the new zeiss simply because it is new.
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Ok, here's a monkey wrench- my Habicht is going to SONA on Monday... even the best of the best are made by the hand of man.
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