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O.K gents, (and ladies) I need a little help.  I'm hoping someone here owns a reference by which you can give me the "book" value of a firearm. I of course realize that any such figure would be highly dependent upon firearm condition etc., etc., etc. but, I don't need an actual authoritative quote, just a ballpark figure.

What I am looking at is a Smith & Wesson 686+ Mountain Gun in .357 Magnum.  As with all of the Mountain Guns this is a stainless steel revolver with a 4" barrel.  The barrel has been tapered and the underlug scalloped for weight savings. The gun is in fired but excellent condition.  It is in its factory original format (i.e. original grips, sights, etc.)

Any help is appreciated.


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Do you know how old this gun is? I am not aware of any K/L frame guns that were considered Mountain Guns, only N-frames. They recently have had Pro series and a stock service revolver with tapered barrel shroud.
686 4" are everywhere and can be picked up for around four bills.
Special runs available from Lew Horton's can be more scarce and in some cases worth more.
None the less, it sounds like a sweet wheel gun.
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I'm thinking new these should be in the $600 to $650 range not over $675. There are multiple models that have existed with the most recent having a steel insert inside an alloy barrel scandium titanium frame and cylinder very light. Used in good condition it all depends on how badly the guy wants to sell it a dealer will hit him about $250 or more below the retail value and then mark it up $100 to $125.  Ive seen 357's that would be $500. new selling used for as low as $325 from a dealer.  If the guy is a friend of yours a fair price would likely be in the $450. range give or take $25 and you would likely expect to get a little ammo or a hoslter with it at no added charge. If the guy is merely an acquaintance tell him you would be able to do $400 and see what he says - you can always go up.  The thing you have to ask yourself first is  -  (Is this the exact model and caliber of pistol I really want. )  Because  eaven though it may be a good deal if it is not the right pistol for you and a Glock 23 (etc) is the right gun you need to make that call before going further.  Personally I like a 44 mag for hunting applications and 40 S&W Glocks or 45 acp Colt 1911 for self defense.  I do have a S&W 586 that I carried as a police officer in Texas but that was required by that agency. I really think the all around best pistol out there right now is a Glock 23 as it weighs less than a S&W model 60 and packs a lot more ammo and comes on sight faster and can be had with night sights for the money you are talking about.

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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Do you know how old this gun is? I am not aware of any K/L frame guns that were considered Mountain Guns, only N-frames... None the less, it sounds like a sweet wheel gun.


This is absolutely an L-Frame 686+ S&W Mountain Gun.  The words "Mountain Gun" are laser etched along the right side of the barrel - just like on the 44 Magnum, 45 Long Colt, etc. versions. Really L-frames are just N-frame uppers with K-frame sized grips.

I do not know how old it is exactly but, it is the 686-5 rendition. I know that there were not very many made, hence my desire to find out (roughly) how much it is worth.  Hopefully someone has a copy of the "Blue Book of Gun Values" and can help me out.

BTW, it definitely is a sweet wheel gun.  I like it a lot better than my other, standard-version of the 4" 686+.
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

I'm thinking new these should be in the $600 to $650 range not over $675. There are multiple models that have existed with the most recent having a steel insert inside an alloy barrel scandium titanium frame and cylinder very light. Used in good condition it all depends on how badly the guy wants to sell it a dealer will hit him about $250 or more below the retail value and then mark it up $100 to $125.  Ive seen 357's that would be $500. new selling used for as low as $325 from a dealer.  If the guy is a friend of yours a fair price would likely be in the $450. range give or take $25 and you would likely expect to get a little ammo or a [holster] with it at no added charge. If the guy is merely an acquaintance tell him you would be able to do $400 and see what he says - you can always go up.  The thing you have to ask yourself first is  -  (Is this the exact model and caliber of pistol I really want. )  Because  [even] though it may be a good deal if it is not the right pistol for you and a Glock 23 (etc) is the right gun you need to make that call before going further.  Personally I like a 44 mag for hunting applications and 40 S&W Glocks or 45 acp Colt 1911 for self defense.  I do have a S&W 586 that I carried as a police officer in Texas but that was required by that agency. I really think the all around best pistol out there right now is a Glock 23 as it weighs less than a S&W model 60 and packs a lot more ammo and comes on sight faster and can be had with night sights for the money you are talking about.


I maybe should clarify that I am neither looking to buy nor sell this (or any) handgun, at least not right now.  I already own it and it is one of my favorites.  I'm just trying to discover its worth.

BTW, when I bought it I paid $350 for it however, I am absolutely certain that they guy I got it from did not know that it was anything other than a standard 686+.  I of course, did not offer to educate him as to the differences! Big%20Grin


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Originally posted by lucznik lucznik wrote:


BTW, when I bought it I paid $350 for it however, I am absolutely certain that they guy I got it from did not know that it was anything other than a standard 686+.  I of course, did not offer to educate him as to the differences! Big%20Grin
 
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my book says this, year of first production: 1996, nib:$450 exc-$400
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Originally posted by lucznik lucznik wrote:


I do not know how old it is exactly but, it is the 686-5 rendition. I know that there were not very many made, hence my desire to find out (roughly) how much it is worth.  Hopefully someone has a copy of the "Blue Book of Gun Values" and can help me out.
 
I have the 23rd Edition and there is no mention of the words "Mountain Gun" for the 686.  They show:
 
Model 686 Distinguished Combat
Model 686 Plus
1984 Model 686 Lew Horton Edition 
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