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What do you guys own? I'm starting to look hard at purchasing a legit safe for all my weapons storage plus important docs.

Any recommendations?

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=OSONS5UGRNGYXLAQBBKCCONMCAEFKIWE?id=0031453227326a&type=product&cmCat=froogle&cm_ven=data_feed&cm_cat=froogle&cm_pla=1240403&cm_ite=0031453227326a&_requestid=80169

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=144020

I live about an hour away from Cabelas so naturally that would be a good fit for a safe. Anybody have experience with these types?

Thanks!



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No Cabelas around here but as a rule of thumb.
1.   Make sure you buy a safe with at  least a 1 hr fire rating. Anything less and you may find the warranty void.
2. Get at least twice as large as you will ever expect to use. This will be about 4 times what you feel you need now. I guarantee it will get filled. If not with firearms but with other important documents and valuables.
3. If there is a Locksmith that specializes in safes near you, buy from them. Many times the price is better and you will get better warranty service when needed. It is easier to get someone to service a safe they have sold. A box store will not have a service department. A safe is hard and expensive to return.
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you need to worry about it being water tight just as much as you need to worry about the fire rating, as a fireman we at times will use ungodly amounts of water to put out a house fire.
just something else to think about.
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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

No Cabelas around here but as a rule of thumb.
1.   Make sure you buy a safe with at  least a 1 hr fire rating. Anything less and you may find the warranty void.
2. Get at least twice as large as you will ever expect to use. This will be about 4 times what you feel you need now. I guarantee it will get filled. If not with firearms but with other important documents and valuables.
3. If there is a Locksmith that specializes in safes near you, buy from them. Many times the price is better and you will get better warranty service when needed. It is easier to get someone to service a safe they have sold. A box store will not have a service department. A safe is hard and expensive to return.


Great suggestions Lile.

#1   Thunbs Up  If within your budget go with a 90 minute rated safe.

#2   Thunbs Up  Thunbs Up  Wish someone would have told me this 20 years ago.

#3   Thunbs Up  Definitely worth looking into.
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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

No Cabelas around here but as a rule of thumb.
1.   Make sure you buy a safe with at  least a 1 hr fire rating. Anything less and you may find the warranty void.
2. Get at least twice as large as you will ever expect to use. This will be about 4 times what you feel you need now. I guarantee it will get filled. If not with firearms but with other important documents and valuables.
3. If there is a Locksmith that specializes in safes near you, buy from them. Many times the price is better and you will get better warranty service when needed. It is easier to get someone to service a safe they have sold. A box store will not have a service department. A safe is hard and expensive to return.


Great advice for sure. I definitely had in mind to buy larger off the bat due to the fact i enjoy hunting and shooting in general so i know purchases will happen over the years. I like the idea of having an hour+ fire/water rating as our house is a bit more rurally located. Better to be safe than sorry from that regard.

I'll have to look into local locksmiths. Hadn't really thought of that.

Thanks for the advice guys.
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  All of this advice is right on the money. When looking check out Costco on line good safes with all the features for a lot less $$$, with delivery included in price.
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Alot of safe manufacturers sell seconds[scratch & dent] for realy good prices.
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Some manufactures will deliver and set up too.  I can't remember which one it was when I was research years ago.  Maybe Liberty?  don't remember.

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Lots of good advice already offered. I had a buddy buy a really nice safe (Liberty I think) at a great price, from a local pawn shop. They delivered and brought it in to the house for him. Years ago (1980's) I bought a Browning safe that was drop shipped to my house. The Union truck driver set it in the road in front of my house because that's all he "had" to do. I bribed him (with a six pack) to hand truck it in to my garage. More fun than diarrhea.
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I have a big stack-on (sp) safe. a friend was in need of some cash and I got it for 500. its a 1,200 safe. its fire rated and all that good stuff. Also in the paper work its say "if the safe is bolted down all items inside our covered" that from flood. fire and other stuff. So far its been a nice safe but i'm out growig it slowly.
 
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Hey shooter hang on,maybe Bigdaddy will cut you a deal on his old safeHere Ye Here Ye
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nah I got to keep it also,
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home depot sell safes as well with free delivery.  I bought one from them.  Sentry Safe brand
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Thanks to all for your advice....i'll check locally and plan a Cabelas run next weekend as well. Might kick some tires and see what kind of deals are out there locally. 
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SmileBuy the biggest best quality one that you can afford - 90 min fire rating.
Other factors are a removable door to lighten load for installation and if the safe is to be sited on a basement concrete floor put it ontop of a low elevated platform to get it off the concrete. In case of a flood of fire fighting water (good point) this could help and will prevent the bottom of the safe from rusting upon exposure to the salts in the concrete. The safe might be anchored to the floor to prevent it from being lugged away by bad guys.
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Well most off the safes i am looking at are in the 500+ lb range empty so i doubt they're going anywhere with it by hand lol. Hell i've found em as heavy as 1100lbs. That's just unreal.
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The weight is from the fire protection. Weight is good. The lighter safe will have similar thickness metal for the walls but the heaver safe will have more sheet rock in it to last through a fire.

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If you ever plan to move it, try Zanotti Armor.

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You may have to reinforce the floor with the bigger safes.
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As already said, get the biggest one you can. I bought a Heritage the size of a refrigerator thinking I would never fill it. It's full. Thinking of buying another unit for paperwork and electronics and leaving the Heritage as my dedicated gun safe. Make sure wherever you buy it that they will deliver - and move it for you if ever needed! Golf balls work pretty good to maneuver it from room to room once in the house.
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2" pvc works good and will not mar wood floors.

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Yeah, no chance it goes in the basement....to damp there and a lot of steps makes it a task and half. I have a great spot picked out and definitely like the ideas of PVC pipe 3 tens!
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