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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pyro6999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April/28/2010 at 21:57
youve already had good luck with a cz once, why not try them again??
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The CZ527 has gotten some great reviews all over the web. 

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i think cz is one of the most under rated companies out there. they make very nice looking weapons that function very well.

no doubt a kimber 84 would be very nice, but im sure its over $1k.
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=166676161   This is Tikka T3 Varmit in Stainless   I believe they discontinued the stainless model it is impossible to locate. 
 
Model 700™ Varmint SF Thumbhole Special Run   RAMAC # 26497
Model 700™ Varmint SF Thumbhole Specifications
Caliber Barrel Length Barrel Finish Stock RAMAC
.223 Rem 26" Stainless Black Laminate 26497
.22-250 Rem 26" Stainless Black Laminate 26499 [SOLD OUT]

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Thats a good looking Tikka. I like the stainless on it.
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Am i crazy to want to stick with 223 here?  Should i look at the 22250?  Being i have all the stuff for reloading.
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Am i crazy to want to stick with 223 here?  Should i look at the 22250?  Being i have all the stuff for reloading.
 
 How often do you take the 22-250 out? If you got another one what would you do different. You could opt for a good scope for it. Or if the 22-250 doesn't have sentimental value. Buy a 223 and sell the 22-250 for funds for a scope. If I were shooping between the two I would probably go for the 223. I think if for no other reason, because of the different platforms that are available. Plus, which do you think offer more loading options and available components? I have no experience with the 22-250 so that is also a factor in leaning toward the 223.
 
 
Edited to say; I may have miss read your post. Do you even have a 22-250? Or just the loading stuff.


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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Am i crazy to want to stick with 223 here?  Should i look at the 22250?  Being i have all the stuff for reloading.

i wouldnt have a .223 if i already owned a 22-250 myself, but i hate dealing with the small rifle primers so im sorta biased.
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Am i crazy to want to stick with 223 here?  Should i look at the 22250?  Being i have all the stuff for reloading.
 
I guess i need to clarify, I have the 223 and all the stuff to reload as well as thousands of brass for it.     I would have to start from scratch if I went with a 22-250.     should have worded that better.
Will the 22-250 be more beneficial as far as the trajectory and wind drift?
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unless you get a non standard twist barrel, no not really.
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Here is the odd thing about the .223 and the 22-250.  The Tikka comes in a 1 in 8 twist barrel for a .223 so it will shoot the 75, 77, & 80 gr bullets which are the true long range bullets.  The 22-250 is around 4000 ft per sec but wiht light weight bullets. Typically the 22-250 has a 1 in 14 twist barrel for the really light stuff 50 grain and below.  Some of the .223 varmit rilfes are 1 in 12 twist  so you really need to pick between a gun that is a 300 yd and less super fast light bullet wiht very flat trajectory 22-250 vs a slow heavy .223 bullet with a much more radical trajectory but able to shoot 600 yds plus using heavy bullets.    Prairie dog hunters and many coyote hunters go for the 22-250 because it is a very flat trajectory and a lot of them are not really dialing in correction they are just working at about the same distances probably around 300 yds - far enough away not to scare off the critters.

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actually the 1:14 will shoot 55gr bullets just fine as well. and will even shoot some 60gr bullets also.
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=165715547
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-xcr-tactical-long-range.aspx      416 stainles with trinyte corosion proof finish - looks blued.   this .223 is 1 in 9 twist.
 
I mostly load 69 gr bullets in .223 and have some 75 & 77 but I have been thinking real hard about buying either a .223 bolt or 22-250 bolt gun in a heavy barrel so I have been researching them also but have not made up my mind yet.   I seem to have a real hard time justifying a .223 bolt gun when AR's shoot about as well and have a lot more bullets but every time I think about adding a caliber I dont already load for I cringe at the cost.  Still I have had some very interesting conversations with a couple of guys who just absolutely love their 22-250s and the 50 to 55 gr AMAX can be had in bulk packs which is nice and the 22-250 uses a larger primer and the case is bigger so easier to get hold of but I am hearing it is not as friendly to load.  Sometimes I just think I should stick with .308 it is so easy to load for.  I ran across some cheap under $300 savage rifles in 22-250 or.243 which would be a good coyote truck gun, but Im thinking a benchrest toy.

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i feel the same way wes.
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How about a .204.  I seem to recall Dale saying it is a better round than the 22-250.
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The smaller the hole the quicker it gets dirty.  There are a lot of die hard coyote hunters that are really into the 17 cal guns but for punching paper and playing with loads I find the .308 really pleasant to work with and the .223 typically has not kept my interest long - I seem to like enough recoil to feel like I did something.  Ive been working with a 300 WSM Tikka T3 lite stainless and I like it but like a heavy barrel .308 better its just the right mix of recoil and ability. But I am open minded to something in that medium caliber range I almost bought a 7mm08 and I like the idea of the 6.5 Credemore but am not sure what is chambered in 6.5 C.  The 22-250 and .243 are definately of interest as is .220 Swift.

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i really prefer the .243 for coyotes in the western states. up here the 22-250 is plenty.

the 6.5 is in ruger 77's for sure, im sure if any other production rifles are chambered in it.
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I tend to believe Springfield Armory's motto ---  "Bring Enough Gun"  I am always inclined to run heavy calibers calling preditors you never know what might come in.

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mountain lions are the biggest predators ive seen come in to a coyote call. im sure if i were in the right place at the right time a bear wouldnt be out of the realm of possibility.
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And then there are wolves, wild dogs, Sasquatch Shockedall of which leaves me thinking M1a.

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