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katrina issue wasnt anything like i was thinking i am talking full scale military campaign town to town house to house every gun they can get, not likely that any service member would do that.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Iam talking full scale military campaign town to town house to house every gun they can get, not likely that any service member would do that.

 

US service members, correct?  I agree with that, for the most part. Same could be said for US LE officers too.

I doubt UN troops would have any reservations about taking weapons away from Americans though.  



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Our government has made a practice of turning over U.S. Troops to NATO on a small scale as multi-national forces - a very dangerous practice.  U.S. Troops should always be under U.S. Leadership.

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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Iam talking full scale military campaign town to town house to house every gun they can get, not likely that any service member would do that.

 

US service members, correct?  I agree with that, for the most part. Same could be said for US LE officers too.

I doubt UN troops would have any reservations about taking weapons away from Americans though.  

 

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

katrina issue wasnt anything like i was thinking i am talking full scale military campaign town to town house to house every gun they can get, not likely that any service member would do that.

 

Why have a military?... They could lead a coup... That's why we have BRAC

 

Why not just hire "contractors"?  They are loyal for the money.  Blackwater was used after Katrina... Sorry, my bad, for listing things with an established and proven track record, rather than the popular John Birch senerio.

 

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

katrina issue wasnt anything like i was thinking i am talking full scale military campaign town to town house to house every gun they can get, not likely that any service member would do that.

 

Why have a military?... They could lead a coup... That's why we have BRAC

 

Why not just hire "contractors"?  They are loyal for the money.  Blackwater was used after Katrina... Sorry, my bad, for listing things with an established and proven track record, rather than the popular John Birch senerio.

 

De-Nile not just a river that flow through Eygpt

 

if that were to happen i think we would have another civil war in this country.

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Stock up on ammo, food and water Brothers.

 

I don't foresee a door kicking campaign taking place, as much as a big squeeze play to get your guns like cutting off electricity, food, water, ammo, etc.

 

Watching your kids and wife go cold & hungry just might "get your mind right", as far as "They" are concerned.

 

I also think we will be surprised at the amount of gun lovers like us that will "roll over" and give up our weapons just because "Govco" say's too.

 

I base that belief on the amount of time we run around "toeing the line" NOW trying to live within Govco's UNConstitutional rules and regulations they have put upon us. (My self included.)

Were all ready slaves to the government. Have been for a long time. Some of us know it, most of us don't.

 

Don't believe me??

Try to tell Govco to go pound sand next time he sends you a property tax bill.

I own my home outright, I have the deed in my safe, but let me not pay property taxes and ...........You know the rest. 

 

Trick or treat???

 

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Cheaptrick,

 

Thank you for posting the picture of how a child custody case was desided in favor of Castro, rather than the child.  You are most correct to say that what is prudent is to think in a longer term. 

 

 

 Things like a raised bed garden are a much more practical solution for many of our social ills.  You grow your own more healthy food.  That gets you healthy exercise, that reducess stress. You know where it came from and what if any chemicals are on it.  You are not dependant upon a store that requires a supply chain of heading to four dollar a gallon fuel and declining dollar.

 

Pryo,

 

Before myself and others on the list were born we having a sort of cold civial war in this country.  The roots were in place before the great dression.  We keep seeing it redefined.

 

The knock down drag-em out stuff will not happen until you have been fired from your job.  Your money will have ran out.  And most likely your family leaves you. Any smart or at least cunning Pol will not let the "classic  senerio" happen.  There would have to be all sorts of stuff lead up to it. 

 

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I read alot of stuff on where I should be placing my money to get the most growth over the longer term.  Many of the people are talking about about how socialist this country will become from now and most certainly after 2012 through 2016.  The baby boomer will be retired and wanting government to provide everything.  They will have the voting block to get it done.  

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Originally posted by silver silver wrote:

 

 

Guy's let me comebind somethings so that we all get a better prespective.

 

Cheaptrick,

 

Thank you for posting the picture of how a child custody case was desided in favor of Castro, rather than the child.  You are most correct to say that what is prudent is to think in a longer term. 

 

 

 Things like a raised bed garden are a much more practical solution for many of our social ills.  You grow your own more healthy food.  That gets you healthy exercise, that reducess stress. You know where it came from and what if any chemicals are on it.  You are not dependant upon a store that requires a supply chain of heading to four dollar a gallon fuel and declining dollar.

 

Pryo,

 

Before myself and others on the list were born we having a sort of cold civial war in this country.  The roots were in place before the great dression.  We keep seeing it redefined.

 

The knock down drag-em out stuff will not happen until you have been fired from your job.  Your money will have ran out.  And most likely your family leaves you. Any smart or at least cunning Pol will not let the "classic  senerio" happen.  There would have to be all sorts of stuff lead up to it. 

 

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I read alot of stuff on where I should be placing my money to get the most growth over the longer term.  Many of the people are talking about about how socialist this country will become from now and most certainly after 2012 through 2016.  The baby boomer will be retired and wanting government to provide everything.  They will have the voting block to get it done.  

Silver, lets get your head screwed on correctly and understand what pyro6999 is saying in his brief posts.  The only thing he is trying to state, is that the US military, is unlikely to attack its own people to take their weapons.  Actually, he is correct.  From the beginning of this country, there really is no prescedent for any such action, barring the civil war.  And, I really do not think that is goint to happen.  Your analogy of Katrina, is quite poor, at best.  Those were a bunch of thug hoodlums, who deserved to be fired upon, by contract services such as BlackWater, Federal Forces or Local Law Enforcement and if I was there, I would have shot on them.  So, lets leave the Katrina, so called analogy, which is actually antonym, behind and consider other analogies.  There are none, unfortunately.  So again, forget the sarcaism and lets me proactive and consider our options.  As an incentive, consider the possibilities:  Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Osama Obama (or whatever his name is) or the evil, pure son of a bitch, bastard, unadulterated ass-hole, malpractice lawyer and son of satan himself, John Edwards, as a possible President.  Now, get to work and think of some ideas of how to elect a realistic President and how to protect our guns.

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Thank you for your kind words about Mister Edwards.  From those of us outside of your area, he looks like the lessor of evils.  Get Barack Obama first book!  I have the CD version and have listened to it twice while on the road.  It is a most interesting and pleasant experince that offers many insites to who/what mister Obama would act or most likely not react to, and then over react to a lot of things.

 

Barring Fred Thompson's entry, I am focusing on congress and my own state house.  We have enough troubles close to home.

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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Originally posted by silver silver wrote:

 

 

Guy's let me comebind somethings so that we all get a better prespective.

 

Cheaptrick,

 

Thank you for posting the picture of how a child custody case was desided in favor of Castro, rather than the child.  You are most correct to say that what is prudent is to think in a longer term. 

 

 

 Things like a raised bed garden are a much more practical solution for many of our social ills.  You grow your own more healthy food.  That gets you healthy exercise, that reducess stress. You know where it came from and what if any chemicals are on it.  You are not dependant upon a store that requires a supply chain of heading to four dollar a gallon fuel and declining dollar.

 

Pryo,

 

Before myself and others on the list were born we having a sort of cold civial war in this country.  The roots were in place before the great dression.  We keep seeing it redefined.

 

The knock down drag-em out stuff will not happen until you have been fired from your job.  Your money will have ran out.  And most likely your family leaves you. Any smart or at least cunning Pol will not let the "classic  senerio" happen.  There would have to be all sorts of stuff lead up to it. 

 

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I read alot of stuff on where I should be placing my money to get the most growth over the longer term.  Many of the people are talking about about how socialist this country will become from now and most certainly after 2012 through 2016.  The baby boomer will be retired and wanting government to provide everything.  They will have the voting block to get it done.  

Silver, lets get your head screwed on correctly and understand what pyro6999 is saying in his brief posts.  The only thing he is trying to state, is that the US military, is unlikely to attack its own people to take their weapons.  Actually, he is correct.  From the beginning of this country, there really is no prescedent for any such action, barring the civil war.  And, I really do not think that is goint to happen.  Your analogy of Katrina, is quite poor, at best.  Those were a bunch of thug hoodlums, who deserved to be fired upon, by contract services such as BlackWater, Federal Forces or Local Law Enforcement and if I was there, I would have shot on them.  So, lets leave the Katrina, so called analogy, which is actually antonym, behind and consider other analogies.  There are none, unfortunately.  So again, forget the sarcaism and lets me proactive and consider our options.  As an incentive, consider the possibilities:  Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Osama Obama (or whatever his name is) or the evil, pure son of a bitch, bastard, unadulterated ass-hole, malpractice lawyer and son of satan himself, John Edwards, as a possible President.  Now, get to work and think of some ideas of how to elect a realistic President and how to protect our guns.

 

thank you dolphin, i am glad at least one person in here understands my apparently un-educated views, i am not in any way shape or form saying that the govt wont ever try to take away our guns, only a fool would think that. i just have a firm belief that our service members would never take away the rights of the people they protect.

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

thank you dolphin, i am glad at least one person in here understands my apparently un-educated views, i am not in any way shape or form saying that the govt wont ever try to take away our guns, only a fool would think that. i just have a firm belief that our service members would never take away the rights of the people they protect.

 

The current military no.  The key word is current.  The other key word is military.  In twenty year period everything could change. The current military is made up of a volunter members.  The enlisted walk in off the street.  We then have two group that make up the officers.  Those who ROTC and the "ring knockers" who come from the US military acadenies (West Point ect.).    

 

Now, you do not have to be a US citizen to enlist in our military.  A growing number of our enlistements are coming from south of the border.  In a few years we could have our own mini foreign legion.

 

The ROTC are forced to be more and more PC every year.  They are forced to get there other grades from lefty proffs who loth them.  To get a good assiment you have to get good grades...

 

The Ring knockers? They come from where?   There are 535 each year who come from the politcians and a few athletic scholarships.  See even Nancy Polosi can appoint people to the USMA?  A certain percentage of those people will be more loyal to the conections that got them in rather than the people at large. Who ever controls congress also controls our officer corps for the twenty year pipe.

 

I said that the other key word is military.  I have yet to have explained to me the the legal structure that Blackwater operated under after Katrina.  Were they rent a US marshal? State Trooper? Local LE? Whatever structure was used we will see again.

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Silver, lets get your head screwed on correctly and understand what pyro6999 is saying in his brief posts.  The only thing he is trying to state, is that the US military, is unlikely to attack its own people to take their weapons.  Actually, he is correct.  From the beginning of this country, there really is no prescedent for any such action, barring the civil war.  And, I really do not think that is goint to happen. 

 

Yet, now our Supreme Court does not use only prescedent from the United State.  A Precident will be made up, because the end justlifies the means.  The Warren court made up stuff from thin air, why should this be any differant?

 

Now, look back at the Wehermant(sp) in the thirties:   A) I can be a soldier and live with the BS and move up in rank. B) I can quit and go into an economy with few jobs.  Those few jobs are controled by the political bosses.  C) I can complain and wind up in jail.

 

Some of that projects forward from now too...

 

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i would hope that the people in this country paid enough attention in history classes to see that if the govt tries to pull the same crap that hitler did revolt would be the order of the day.not good for the country or its people for sure, i dont see the usa turning into the an axis of evil to try and conquer and rule the world, i think it will come down to conquer and rule its own people though.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i would hope that the people in this country paid enough attention in history classes to see that if the govt tries to pull the same crap that hitler did revolt would be the order of the day.not good for the country or its people for sure, i dont see the usa turning into the an axis of evil to try and conquer and rule the world, i think it will come down to conquer and rule its own people though.

 

History classes OMG that is like SO OLD... Like older that Brittiany not having underwear... DID, YOU, WHATCH, Idol last night OMG...

 

1) I am not "mad" at anybody.  I -DO- like to play the devils advocate.  After twenty years of debating this issue, I do that very well.

 

2) I have worked for money to get people elected into high office.  I have been on the phones polling people night after night.  The big game or Wheel of Fortune is a bigger deal than who makes dessions about your taxes, property or freedoms to a large section of America.

 

My favorite quote that tells the story about the electorite comes from P.T. Barnum "Nobody ever went broke under estimating the inteligence of the American public."  A good friend of mine rejected that statement, and found it rude. Well, until he ran for school board...

 

3) History?  Please, between the touchly feely crap, the disruptions, and the wide range of BS that gets mandated to be taught in school student get limited exposure to core subject like math, english, science and history.  Then there is what is taught.  Some schools are so into everyything is Ok mode that they teach that Hilters beliefs were OK, for him, and that we should not be "Judgemental". 

 

 My companies clients include schools and colleges in four states.  I travel to a lot of them. Often, the parents do not allow things that need to happen, to happen.   

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thats another thing about this country that is getting old, people think everything should be nicey nicey like the war, and rules of engagement dont fire until fired upon?? war isnt pretty, and yet the world has all these rules that govern war?? what a bunch of bull, cant have a cup of coffee that doesnt tell you its hot on the side, might get sued
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indeed, pyro - indeed.

 

this country needs to grow its balls back. 

 

We need more role models (well, good ones anyway)

 

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