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I have found a couple great deals on new optics but I'm having trouble narrowing down which scope I want. The setup is as follows: The scope is intended for a Swiss K31 with the offset clamp-on base. 
The scopes I am looking at right now are the Burris SixX 2x12x40, the Burris Eurodiamond 1.5x6x40, the Nikon Monarch 2x8x32, the Bushnell 6500 1.25x8x32, or perhaps a Weaver Classic K4.

So, my question is: For the intended purpose of deer hunting at short to medium ranges in all conditions including foul weather and poor light, which scope would you recommend? Superior optics is obviously at the forefront of my decision, but fit and finish are also important, and I need a scope that will be forgiving and non-critical in eye relief because of the offset scope setup on the rifle.
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  I'd have to say none of the above. Not that any of them wouldn't work of course. But I'd go with Zeiss 4x32 Conquest. Just an opinion.

        http://swfa.com/Zeiss-4x32-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-P6595.aspx

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I'd go with whichever variable had the most eye relief on those, except the 2-12 seems like overkill on the high end.
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Yes, I have no need for the 12x magnification, that model just happens to have the reticle I would like to get which is the German #4. 
300S&W, I would love to get a Zeiss, but for whatever reason they do not offer the #4 reticle in their lower powers (which doesn't make much sense as these scopes would seem to be most usefull with that particular reticle.) Also, I get a VERY significant discount from the manufacturers of the models I listed above, as well as anything from Leupold. So all of the ones listed about are actually cheaper than the Zeiss.
I know Zeiss makes awesome products but it just seems odd to me to pay 300 for the Zeiss when I can get the SixX or Euro-diamond with the #4 and illumination if I want it for the same price. Whats the difference in glass like? Is there any appreciable difference? 
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Ive had a 3-9x40 Zeiss Conquest and a 1.5-6x40 Euro Diamond with a #4 reticle outside at dusk and daylight.They were not mounted just held in my hands. The Zeiss has a little better glass resoloution wise, it just seems a tad crisper. In low light the Euro Diamond was definately just as bright as the Zeiss but again if you are trying to read signs at dark then the Zeiss had a tad sharper resoloution. I liked the Etched reticle Z plex better than the Euro diamond #4 because in daytime the #4 seemed to become grey or faded due to reflected light and the heavy posts were too far apart in the center of the reticle. Now I must say if I could get that Euro diamond with a Taper Plex reticle which is Identical to the Z plex in appearance then I would definately go with the Euro Diamond. It is built very solid, it looks really tough and the sight picture is large and very clean and flat although if I remember correctly there was a tad bit of blurr at the very edge of the image. I really liked that scope but sold only because I didnt like the reticle as much.
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I just bought a 2-8x32 Nikon Monarch and do not believe it is as sharp and has the same high contrast as the Leupold or the Zeiss.  I can not comment on the Eurodiamond.
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Dave44, so you didn't like the #4 reticle on the Burris...that was its biggest selling point for me. Most of the scopes i have right now are plex reticles or something very similar and they work fine, but are thin and difficult to see in low light. My Kahles optics last much longer than the plex reticle affords me the ability to ethically take game. 
I like the thick posts on the #4, but if they become difficult to see in the daylight it sort of defeats the purpose. How is the ZPlex reticle in low light? I'm not terribly attached to the #4, I just always understood it was one of the best low light/fast acquisition reticles out there.
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Dont get me wrong they stand out but they seemed too far apart to me. I prefer the bold lines to come closer to the center aiming point. They are not really difficult to see in daylight because they are very bold, I was just saying that they reflected light whick made the reticle not as dark and contrasting as the etched reticle. I could have gotten a rare defective scope I dont know. It is a nice scope and that is for sure. I would still like to have one sometime.
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Bushnell 6500 or Zeiss IMHO......
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Zeiss does (or did) make a Conquest 3x9x40 with the #4 reticle I bought one earlier this year.  I have not gotten to use it in a hunting situation yet so I cannot really give a tru opinion on its performance yet.  General use at range and observing around the house it seems to be a very good optic.  I do have a Conquest 2.5x8x32 that I absolutely love.  It doesn't have the reticle you want though or I would definitely recommend it.

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Of the ones you listed I would say the 6500 with rainguard!
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