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I wrote this in the Millett Zoom Dot thread with not much repsonse to my questions so I figure I should put this out on a separate topic.  Any help would be appreciated. 
I am a newbie (my first posting) here, but a long time follower of opticstalk.com. There is some great info here and it’s been very helpful. 
I decided to buy a Millett zoom dot for my duty rifle based on some good reviews here and elsewhere.  However, I am new to a red dot sighting system and I have some questions concerning the zoom dot:
1) My zoom dot looks fuzzy/starry when I take it in a darkened room, but when I look outside or at a bright object, the dot looks crisp.  Any ideas?  I do were corrective lenses because of my astigmatism. 
2) I am thinking the photo cell may not be allowing the dot to dim enough?  How dim does it go for those who have one?  I thought the dot goes dim enough so that it wouldn’t interfere with NVGs? 
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I'm not sure what style battery yours takes, but I recently read a thread on here where the guys were using same sized batteries but in lower voltage.  This did allow them to dim the dot further at lower settings which made for a better sight in low light conditions.
 
Hopefully one of them will see this and give you a better idea for battery options.
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Hello
 
as with all reflex scopes such as the Aimpoint and the zoom dot there are certain times when a person wearing glasses may have "ghosting" this is due to the lenses.  In most case it will not effect the point of aim.  
 
As to the low light, the auto adjust gives a wide range of brightness that will fit most shooters.  It will go to the point you can not see it with the unaided eye in extreme low light baisc night vision setting.  
 
Thanks for the inetest in our Zoom Dot.
 
Steve
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Responding to steve's comments regarding the ghosting problems for people who wear glasses.  With due repect: you comment "In most case it will not effect the point of aim" truly scares me. In a real tactical environment (millett does claim that the zoom dot is designed for "tactical" environments) most is not nearly good enough.  In reality  the flip side of "most" will end up getting th operator in a world of hurt.  And I would also like to know how well auto adjust works sighting from dark shadow with point of aim in bright sunlight and vice versa ( both very common tactical situations)

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I dont have one.  I have had aimpoints and I have a Trijicon TA442 which I really like for CQB entry .  The amber triangle on the TA442 can be quite accurate working off the point of the triangle and at close range using the whole triangle  both eyes open BAC.
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Originally posted by KB0WZL KB0WZL wrote:

Hello
 
as with all reflex scopes such as the Aimpoint and the zoom dot there are certain times when a person wearing glasses may have "ghosting" this is due to the lenses.  In most case it will not effect the point of aim.  
 
As to the low light, the auto adjust gives a wide range of brightness that will fit most shooters.  It will go to the point you can not see it with the unaided eye in extreme low light baisc night vision setting.  
 
Thanks for the inetest in our Zoom Dot.
 
Steve
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Thanks Steve for the input.  However, the dot on my zoom dot can be easily seen in a total darkness setting and this is where the ghosting is at its worst.  Do you think it needs to be serviced?
 
Sorry for the double post.
 
JD
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 I don't know if this is really the same thing, but when I got a new IOR scope a couple years ago, I noticed an annoying "ghost" when observing the moon at night, and for a while I was afraid the scope was somehow defective.
 I finally realized that it was moonlight coming in over or alongside the tube, reflecting off my eyeglasses, into the ocular lens, and back out again into my eye.
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Hello
 
If you are not happy with the scope and others without glasses see the 2 images send it back and we will take a look at for you. 
 
Bushnell &  Millett are interested in getting you the best product possible.
 
Thanks

Steve
 
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Just a comment on the glasses. I do wear a pair for close work / reading and if I have them on while shooting I do see this ghosting but as soon as I take them off (I can see fine beyond 12") everything looks real clean and crisp.
Only dot issue I have is at minimal moa for 100 yrds+ if I focus on a black target I can see a tail with a dot on each end at 25, 50, 75 yrds I don't see it. At 100 yrds if I shoot each end I can see about 1-2" in placment on the target. Funny thing is if I use my BUIS (1/16th dia. hole) to co-witness the dot looks just fine. Anyone see the tail or do I need to have it looked at?
BTW: I'm a very happy customer with the Zoom Dot it's a great product.
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I have seen many Aimpoints that have distorted shaped dots too. I have sent several back from my unit for r and r. I have always been an Aimpoint guy and like mine but am going to get a ZD to try on a semi auto shotgun. I like the ability to change the dot size which for a shotgun with the reduced range even when using slugs compared to a carbine; should help with speed on target. It starts to get old hearing from some that only brand x should be used for this or that reason and that anything other than an Aimpoint or Eotech can take it. i went through a week long course, firing 2500 rds, much on full auto from a Commando with a BSA RD42 with no issues about 10 years ago. Many in the 82nd had these years ago. Did a few break? Yes. So does everything else. I say buy the best the you can afford when you do not have the time or money to test new gear. But you do not always get what you pay for. I used that RD42 for 7 years hard with no issue or loss of zero. Would I go back to one? No, but now I can afford better and my agency buys what we ask for.
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