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Having problems with factory loads for Kimber 308 win. Pulling out my 30 year old reloading equipment RCBS, I purchased in 1974 and never used. Retired now and it will give me something to do and save some money reloading my own. Any bullet, powder combo's would be appreciated for deer hunting.
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Blue, what do you mean by "problems"? Inaccurate?
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Yes, I have tried Fusion,165 gr, Vital shock accubonds 165 gr and they will not group, had it to my gunsmith and the gun is fine.
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The 308 is inherantly one of the most accurate calibers out there. Maybe try some 150gr or 180 gr bullets, either factory or hand loads.  I've got two 06s and one likes 150s, while the other 180s.  Neither rifle seems to like 165s, but I haven't spent alot of time developing these, I'm sure I could find one.  As always the 308 has 100's of possibilities for powder/bullet combinations that your sure to find a few that are stellar.
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your hunting white tail, ok you are unhappy with your accuracy im going to suggest you use some 180gr sierra prohunters, or gamekings, and use some imr 4895 or imr 4064 and go from there
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Varget!! Yippee
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You could add r15 or r17 to the mix.
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I have been told Varget and the IMR 4895 are very friendly to the 308, I am going out today and pick a lb of each up and try the 180 g prohunters and gamekings. Does anyone have a good starting point or any other suggestions.
 
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Originally posted by Blueboy Blueboy wrote:

I have been told Varget and the IMR 4895 are very friendly to the 308, I am going out today and pick a lb of each up and try the 180 g prohunters and gamekings. Does anyone have a good starting point or any other suggestions.
 
Thanks for the info guys
 
Don't forget IMR 4064 and W748.  Along with Varget, those are among the best powders available for the .308.  I've had tremendous success with 43 gr. 4064 and CCI BR2 primers behind several different 165 grain bullets.  All of my .308's LOVE this load!  Ironically, my rifles have shot BEST with 165/168 grainers.
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Well just to throw another cat into the bag,
It might not be the bullet wieght at all it might be the COL of the loads. I changed my COL for those 155gr amax over 43.6gr Varget and BR2's by .006 over and it tighten the groups up significantly.  I going to try this out on some 150gr SST to see how well it does for hunting loads.  These will be my grain feild loads.  In the thick stuff you gotta go heavy.
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I was thinking it might be the COL,  am open to trying anything. I love the Kimbers, have a 270wsm Montana, 243 84m they shoot great, this 308 is a 84m and it would not group. I just put a nice Kahles 1.5x4x42 helia c on it, I purchased from the sample list with the advice of people on this forum. I just went out today and purchased IMR 4064, Varget and 4895, I had to order the sierra prohunter and gamekings 150g & 180 g in each. I will play around until I find the right load. Thanks everyone for all your help
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Starting loads for 180gr. bullet
Varget        41.0 grains--starting load.
Imr 4895    40.5 grains--starting load.
Both taken from the 2008 Hodgdon manual.  Also check Hodgdon.com, Lots of free loading info.
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44 GRAINS VARGET   168 GR HORNIDAY  AMAX
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After reading some of the comments above, I was checking my rifle this morning and noticed when I load a round into the chamber the bolt is real hard to close, my other Kimbers are not that way. I am wondering if the factory loads are hitting the rifling in the barrel. Which would make sense with not grouping well. I am going to check that today.

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either that or the brass needs a trim, but if its brand new ammo that shouldnt be an issue, take your bullet seating die and seat it a little deeper then try to chamber them up
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

44 GRAINS VARGET   168 GR HORNIDAY  AMAX
 
I'll second this load!  All three of my .308 rifles LOVE this recipe.  Varget is very versatile because it is less temperature sensitive than some others that shoot well for .308. I find it to be a great hunting AND target powder for .308 that is pretty consistent year-round.  To go into a little more detail, here are all the components I use for this load:
--Lapua brass (fireformed to the particular rifle);
--Hornady 168gr. AMAX;
--44gr. Varget;
--Federal Gold Medal 210M primer;
--COAL right at magazine length;
 
Obviously, you need to work up to this load in your rifle. 
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You can substitute CCI BR2 primers, as Steelbenz recommended, instead of the Fed 210M primers.
Fed Match primers are in short supply in some areas, so feel free to switch. 
I have used and liked both, but my rifle prefers the BR 2's a smidge better. Some say the CCI's are a tad cooler.   
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Originally posted by Blueboy Blueboy wrote:

After reading some of the comments above, I was checking my rifle this morning and noticed when I load a round into the chamber the bolt is real hard to close, my other Kimbers are not that way. I am wondering if the factory loads are hitting the rifling in the barrel. Which would make sense with not grouping well. I am going to check that today.


Are they all that way, or is it just a few?
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All the ones I have tried are, Fusions and Vital Shoc are the 2 I tried so far.
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so were only talking about federal ammo, what about winchester or remington?
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I just bought a box of Remington Cor lokt and a box of Winchester XP3. I shoot the XP3 in my 270wsm and they shoot great. I am going to try these on Monday and see what happens.
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