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How 'bout a little love for my Texas A&M Aggies! Though unexpected (especially by me), Saturday's upset of #1 Bama didn't happen by accident. That team has been improving every week. They currently have the nations 3rd most prolific offense among Div I-A teams in total yards, and the 7th highest scoring offense. QB Johnny "Football" Manziel has the 2nd highest yardage total among QBs and is 3rd in rushing among QB's. His ability to extend plays and make positive yardage in improvised situations is remarkable, and transcends his numbers. And...he's a redshirt freshman! Their offense has scored on the first possession of every game this season so far. DL Damontre Moore is tied for most sacks. Their two losses were to Florida and LSU, both of which they were leading for most of the game and lost by a combined 8 points. The Florida loss was their first game, with a totally new coaching staff, offense, defense, and starting QB, and even then, they lost by 3 points despite adjusting to a new system and their QB playing his first college game. Were it not for a couple of costly turnovers near their own goal line, they would have likely won their game against LSU. All the experts and pundits said they'd never be able to compete in the SEC.

Sorry...just had to brag a little. If I didn't, nobody else would.Wink


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Wow....what a game!

(Florida...loss.)    
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As a "natural born Texican" I just have to sit back and laugh... while saying "GIG 'EM AGGIES"...
All I've heard is how "out of their league" the Aggies are and how they are going to truly regret coming to the SEC.  Don't get me wrong, I was never an Aggie fan... BUT I AM NOW...
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Id say that the Aggies have a very bright future.
Im also glad the Gators don't have to play them now.
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Okay, I was in mourning for a few days! Kudo's to the A & M nation. We had our shot to come back an failed.
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Originally posted by Steelbenz Steelbenz wrote:

Okay, I was in mourning for a few days! Kudo's to the A & M nation. We had our shot to come back an failed.

With K State and Oregon going down yesterday, Bammers just might be sitting OK if they can beat the Dawgs in Hotlanta, Mike.    
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I hate making this statement   BUT they gotta get by that farmers pasture college down in Awwwburn first.   This is a 365 day blood feud so the records don't count at all.   

But yeah, they play IN T town so they should stomp'em into a mud hole.    Roll Tide!
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No disrespect intended toward your elephants, Steely; I have a world of respect for the Tide. I'm just proud of my Aggies team who nobody gave the slightest chance of success to at the beginning of the season, and who've been through a lengthy drought from playing quality football.

On that topic, Johnny "Football" Manziel is the first ever freshman in NCAA history to eclipse both 3,000 passing and 1,000 rushing yards in a season. What do you guys think of his chances of winning the Heisman? There's no doubt he's built a solid case for it, but I think the fact he's a redshirt freshman will be a strike against him (though it shouldn't be). Consider this:


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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

  ...All the experts and pundits said they'd never be able to compete in the SEC...
Every time some dim writer says something like that, you can bet they are smoke blowers without a clue.
Some might say they all are.
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HeisMANZIEL!!!!! 4600 all purpose yards, beating Cam Newton's SEC record, in his first season...in only 12 games instead of 14 for Cam.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21125015/start-striking-that-pose-johnny-manziel

Any reason why not, fellas?


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Those are definitely overwhelming stats for a resume to win the Heisman.


I like the idea of a defensive player winning which is rare and I especially like this guy and the impact he's made for Notre Dame this year. Without Manti Te'o, I don't think they'd be #1 in the BCS rankings and playing for all the marbles in January.


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Manti Te'o is without a doubt an impact player, and the Irish's best defensive player. Defensive players traditionally are at a great disadvantage for the Heisman simply because there are few stats recorded to quantify what makes a defensive player great. With offensive players, you have plenty of convenient hard numbers like passing and rushing yards, yards per carry, QB ratings, # catches, receiving yards, touchdowns, etc. Plus, DLs and LBs have their own separate awards for the best college DL and LB - the Lombardi and Butkus awards, respectively, so even if they aren't Heisman contenders, they still can be considered the best in college football at their positions.

As far as his impact to ND and their #1 ranking is concerned, the same could be said for Manziel. Manziel by himself accounts for the majority of A&M's high scoring offensive numbers. Yes, they have 2 losses, but those 2 losses were for a combined 8 points against top 10 teams.
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I like Johnny for the Heisman too, but former Heisman winners I believe say they wouldn't ever vote for a Freshman. I personally think this type of thinking needs to be reversed. If the best player that year is a Freshman, let him have it. 

Notre Dame is a paper tiger and is going to get pimp slapped by by the winner of the SEC championship game. They had a big win against OK earlier, but they don't look TO ME like they could stay with the top tier SEC schools, Oregon, or K State.    
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:


Notre Dame is a paper tiger 


I think they've been very lucky and got at least one bad call their way to beat a certain team from the West Coast. Their "D" is for real and it's mostly because of #5 while their offense hasn't convinced me and could fall into the "paper tiger" category.
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I thought their offence played pretty well against OK and that's the game that I thought would get them. Defense is pretty good, Mike. 

Here's their record. 

 
DATEOPPONENTRESULT/TIMERECORD/TICKETS
Sat, Sept 11-0
Sat, Sept 8

  • If at first you don't secede...try, try again.
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Not very many points scored against them.
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I love the old Irish teams from the day. Lou Holtz, Rocket, Tim Brown, Jerome Bettis, etc. I just can't warm up to this years group. 
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

No disrespect intended toward your elephants, Steely; I have a world of respect for the Tide. I'm just proud of my Aggies team who nobody gave the slightest chance of success to at the beginning of the season, and who've been through a lengthy drought from playing quality football.

On that topic, Johnny "Football" Manziel is the first ever freshman in NCAA history to eclipse both 3,000 passing and 1,000 rushing yards in a season. What do you guys think of his chances of winning the Heisman? There's no doubt he's built a solid case for it, but I think the fact he's a redshirt freshman will be a strike against him (though it shouldn't be). Consider this:



No offense taken, They whipped'em straight up! I was all about McCarron getting his due respect for the Heisman. Now I'm all for your "MAN"ziel getting it, freshman or no.
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Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

Those are definitely overwhelming stats for a resume to win the Heisman.


I like the idea of a defensive player winning which is rare and I especially like this guy and the impact he's made for Notre Dame this year. Without Manti Te'o, I don't think they'd be #1 in the BCS rankings and playing for all the marbles in January.




I agree to above, I do like J football but he dose have 2 L's. I know it was only by 8 points combined by top 1o teams but still loses. Maybe next year. Shocked
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Last year, Robert Griffin III won the Heisman and his team had 3 losses.

Tim Tebow won the Heisman in 2007 on a 3 loss team, with an additional loss in a bowl game after he won the award.

In neither case did those losses take away from those guys' performances on the field.

Johnny just broke Cam Newton's (another Heisman winner) SEC all purpose yardage record, finishing with 4,600 total yards.

The Heisman is an individual, not team award. Yes, it helps build the case when your team is undefeated, but you have to look at the performance of the candidate.

If he was a Junior or Senior, there wouldn't even be a credible debate.

Just sayin...
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Last year, Robert Griffin III won the Heisman and his team had 3 losses.

Tim Tebow won the Heisman in 2007 on a 3 loss team, with an additional loss in a bowl game after he won the award.

In neither case did those losses take away from those guys' performances on the field.

Johnny just broke Cam Newton's (another Heisman winner) SEC all purpose yardage record, finishing with 4,600 total yards.

The Heisman is an individual, not team award. Yes, it helps build the case when your team is undefeated, but you have to look at the performance of the candidate.

If he was a Junior or Senior, there wouldn't even be a credible debate.

Just sayin...


w0w, so serious ( just kidding) I wish he would win it as  a freshman first ever. he is truly the best QB this yr and has proved it 10 out of 12 games. The games he lost to were teams that really sucked and on his home field..
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His only "bad" game was against LSU, who has a great defense despite a mediocre offense. And, A&M would have won that game were it not for turnovers in bad field position, because LSU wasn't moving the ball effectively against them, and A&M lead for most of the game. It's the only time this entire season he dipped below a 124 QB rating.

The Florida game was their very first game, with a new coaching staff and a totally new system both offensively and defensively. It was Manziel's first ever college game, and he still played very well. Florida already had a game behind them at that point. Still A&M led for most of the game and lost by 3 points.

He beat the Tide in Tuscaloosa, who has arguably the best defense in college football, and he had a highlight reel kind of day against them.

They have scored on every first possession of every game this season. Manziel has managed to put up his impressive numbers despite sitting out 8 quarters this season due to blow-out scores.

Manti is a beast, no doubt. Here are 2012 highlights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxIUeZKPmc

Then again, take a look at Johnny Football's highlights, against arguably tougher defenses:

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2012/johnny-manziel-heisman-highlight-video/
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Here's Manziel's mom, Michelle:


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Article describes football as Johnny's "3rd best sport," behind baseball and golf:

http://heisman.aggieathletics.com/heresjohnny.html
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