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Bill
Optics GrassHopper Joined: August/21/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Posted: August/21/2004 at 21:50 |
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I just got a new CVA black powder muzzle loader I want to put a scope on it MAN how many choice's are there what do I need I am figuring about 180 yards out i need to go??? thanks for your help Bill |
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redneckbmxer24
Optics Master Joined: June/02/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1055 |
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depends on how much you want to spend. for just 180yds, a fixed 4x, a 2-7, or 3-9 would be perfect. i would look at the leupold rifleman, bushnell 4200, leupold fixed, VXI, and VXII. tell us how much you want to spend, then go from there. cory |
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Bill
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I was told that 100.00 to 130.00 wound be fine I am a indiana hunter ( no rifles where i live slug guns or black powder) I just don't want to put a boat load of money in a scope and have over kill remember my cva will only reach so far so i don't want a scope to out reach my gun
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redneckbmxer24
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thats an aweful low budget. look at the leupold rifleman 2-7x33 for 179.95. or the bushnell elite 3200 2-7x32 for 174.95. both are a little over what you want to spend, but are both worth paying for. cory |
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Chris Farris
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Here's a link to Leupold's Shotgun/Muzzle Loader scopes.
Here's a link to some lower priced Simmons Shotgun/Muzzle Loader scopes. |
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martin3175
Optics Master Extraordinaire Joined: January/19/2005 Location: Maryland Status: Offline Points: 3773 |
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You can get a decent scope for your budget, This is the most highly contested price range for optics, and the consumer benefits from alot of R&D . Try the 3200 2-7 Elite, Weaver's new 2-7 Classic, sorry- I think Leupolds are overpriced ( but good scopes), Burris FF2 . Also, I have found Pentax 2-5 Whitetails Unlimited ( made by Burris for Pentax -with upgraded coatings) scopes to be durable and optically excellent.. Edited by martin3175 |
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Imagunsmith
Optics Apprentice Joined: January/18/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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I think you will find you will want to put a scope on you MZ that is rated for muzzleloader/shotgun, there is a difference in recoil/snap reaction between muzzleloaders and rifles. Might not make sense, but it's a fact..................
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Gotta problem rifle? I can probably help.
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koshkin
MODERATOR Dark Lord of Optics Joined: June/15/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13181 |
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For inside 200yrd shooting you really do not need a whole lot of magnification. Staying in $100-$130 range is a bit challenging, but you can look at Bushnell Trophy 1.5-4x32. It is pretty decent and has about 4" of eye relief.
If you are willing to pay a little more Weaver V3 1-3x20 is pretty nice for ~$150 and Burris 4x20 compact is very clear and durable for ~$175.
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STWSniper
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The Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 with Ballistic Plex reticle is a very good choice for a muzzleloader.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to scopes. If you understand the trajectory of the load you are using you know where the bullet should impact at a given distance. Example: Barnes 285gr sabbot for .50 cal muzzleloader sighted at 100yds using 100grains FFG or Pyrodex at 150 yds is -4.63 in lower and at 200yds it is -13.46 in Same bullet but with 150 grains FFG or Pyrodex sighted at 100 yds will at 150 yds be -3.38 in lower and at 200 yds be -10.28. I can understand that you may not want to put a lot of money into a really great scope and beat it up hunting it but it all depends on how serious you are about your hunting and what you can afford. I would put Leupold Tactical scopes on every rifle if I could afford to do that. My eyes aren't bad but they are not as good as they were 40 yrs ago so good glass helps. It can be really nice to be able to look at a deer at 200yds and decide if that is the one you want of if you want to let him live longer to grow larger antlers. The variable power affords you the option to either stalk game at low power or still hunt at longer distance with higher power. Muskets have a bad habit of damaging the finish on the lower side of a scope so you may want to protect it somehow. Knight has a good system for this. Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd |
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Henry455
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You might want to take a look at the Mueller "Mulit-Shot" 2-7, I
recently bought one and it's a great bargin for approx. $130.00. I also
have an older Leupold Vari-X II 2-7 and my friends and I both agree the
Mueller is brighter and sharper. Not sure if it will hold up as long
but I guess time will tell.
http://www.muelleroptics.com/multi-shot.htm |
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