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    Posted: September/18/2021 at 15:41

On Friday I went out to Mac's Gunworks to zero and get some drops out to 500 yards with my two Pachmayr Dominator's. These both have long eye pistol scopes on them with external turrets. It is very difficult to shoot accurately at distance with just holding over.
With a 1911 frame and trigger, and not being able to use a bi-pod, makes the Dominator system a little more challenging to use. I used a front rest and a Holland's small field bag under the pistol grip.
The Dominator on the left is a 6.5 Creedmoor with a 15" barrel. Scope is the Leupold 2.5-8 EER. The drops on the grip are for my 140 A-Max load, which I did not use yesterday.
The one on the right is a 25 Creedmoor, and it has a 14" barrel and a Harrel brake. The barrel is heavier also. Once new trigger/hammer parts were put in, the trigger pull is great for a 1911.
Initially, the trigger pull was quite heavy, and being the trigger snob that I am, I didn't like it-Now I love it!
It shoots the .257 110 grain Nosler Accubonds at 2726 fps.
I like the classic looks of the 6.5, but the 25 has become my favorite.
This is the first time I have used the new Weaver 2-6 pistol scope.
You can zero these turrets easily, and so far the adjustment have been spot on to meet me needs.
I like the eye relief better on the Weaver than the Leupold on the Dominator at least.
I knew the velocity with the 110's, so I stated with the 25 Creed.
I had to re-zero at 100 yards, since I had put a new scope on it.
I got lucky, and within 3-shots I was off to shooting steel.
I started at 300 yards on a 10" piece of steel, and I didn't hold or dial for wind. I shot right.
Either the wind was doing something weird then or I pushed the shot right with some bad fundamentals. I am not really sure.
With all the further shots, from that time forward, I had to deal with an ever increasing quartering tail wind to full value wind from right to left.
I was just checking to make sure my drops were solid.
300 yards
https://youtu.be/d3zrtvKhxdI

Then, I jumped out to 500 yards.
https://youtu.be/J7LHdOVNYWY
You don't have to have a lot of magnification to connect at distances further than 500 yards.
If I had my druthers though, I would like to have more than 6x, but I was happy with the shots at 500.
Took some pics, videos, and painted targets.
The wind continued to get faster with some gusting-Notice the swinging steel targets as an indicator!
Time to shoot the 6.5 Creed Dominator.
I tried some Hornady factory ammo that used the 120 grain GMX bullet that I traded for during WY-SHOT.

After a 100 yards zero, I went to the 10 inch plate at 300 yards, and kept subtracting my guesstimate on the velocity until the drops got close.Then, I went to 500 yards where there is a large target, so I could get my wind figured out and it be able to see if my vertical was close. I had to drop my MV more than I thought I would. Notice the swinging plates at 300 and 400 yards.
I shot at 300, 500, and then back to 400 yards

https://youtu.be/zD9VoOnnYF0
https://youtu.be/XWjKKUMNvh4
https://youtu.be/bucddad8_vc
The factory ammo shot pretty good.
Looking forward to deer and antelope hunting this year.
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Beautiful rigs as usual Ernie. Sounds like a good time!
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Blimey! 500 with a hand gun... I used to look at 50m targets and gulp...
Was sure I had a point when I started this post...
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Originally posted by Scrumbag Scrumbag wrote:

Blimey! 500 with a hand gun... I used to look at 50m targets and gulp...

I am not Quigley with a handgun...I am not shooting these offhand at that distance.
I shoot a lot further with other types of specialty pistols-FWIW
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Scrumbag,
My first Dominator kill was at 265 yards.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote EddieHouston Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/12/2023 at 07:46
It's fascinating to read about your experiences with the Pachmayr Dominator for deer hunting, even though it's been two years since your post. The 1911 platform certainly brings a unique aspect to long-range shooting, and your creative approach using a front rest and a small field bag under the pistol grip highlights your adaptability.
Speaking of firearms, if you've been exploring new options since then, I came across this Dan Wesson Commander Classic in .45 ACP on https://uspatriotarmory.com/product/dan-wesson-01912-commander-classic-ca-compliant-45-acp-81-4-25-match-grade-barrel-forged-stainless-steel-frame-w-beavertail-serrated-stainless-steel-slide-brushed-finish-diamond-checkered-cocob. It could be a valuable addition to your collection with its match-grade barrel, stainless steel frame, and other premium features.
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Ernie has some wonderful rigs and is far too modest about his shooting ability!
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With the factory 120 GMX (6.5 Creedmoor) I took a couple of whitetail up close.

With the 25 Creed I took an Axis buck at a friend's place.

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The other way I use them in the filed is to use a light weight PRS pillow bag, and rest my bottom of my hands to as far back as it goes (Which is short of my elbows) in a prone, seated or standing position (Depending on what I have to rest the pillow bag on).


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