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South Pender
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Hi. I'm new on this forum, but was hoping I could get some information about the Kahles KX 2-7X36 scope. I'm considering this for a custom rimfire rifle I'm having built, and wanted a proportionately-compact scope for this rifle. Since most of my shooting with the rifle will probably be at 50 yards, the 7-power top magnification seems sufficient.
Here's my question: First, at what range are these scopes adjusted to be parallax-free? I'm guessing 100 m., but that's just a guess. Second, is there a way to have the parallax-free distance changed to, say, 50 yds.? If I were to get one of these scopes, I'd want the parallax-free range to be 50 yds. Does anyone have any experience with having the parallax adjustment altered with a Kahles scope? Is there a North American distributor for Kahles scopes to whom the scope could perhaps be sent for this? Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide on this. |
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There was a version of this scope designed for rimfire rifles with a 50yard parallax, but it is hard to find.
There importer right now is Swarovski North America. ILya |
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Thanks for this. I called Swarovski North America with this question and found that this Kahles scope is set at the factory to be parallax-free at 100 m. Further, I was astounded to learn that to have the parallax distance adjusted, the scope would have to go back to Austria and would cost something on the order of $275, with a minimum 8-week turnaround time. The $275 was an estimate from the rep at Swarovski NA, and I will likely get a more precise estimate in time from Kahles. However, I think that this pretty much takes this scope out of the running for the project it was planned for. I'm having a custom .22 Sako built, and we're striving for top-notch aesthetics. The small Kahles seemed like a good choice given its size and optical quality. |
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Looks as if I can't edit my previous post, so will just add one more.
Here's another scope I'm considering for this project: It's the March 1-10 x 24mm. Although a little on the heavy side for a rimfire scope (18.3 oz.), its dimensions are ideally-compact for a rimfire rifle and has parallax adjustment all the way down to 10 yd. It would seem to be the perfect rimfire hunting scope, given its zoom ratio. |
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Certainly an impressive choice for a rimfire. A SERIOUS hunter… I like the way you think.
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I have Kahles 2-7x36 on 3 of my rimfire rifles, The parallax is not much of an issue below 7X. The link show's 2 of the Rifles.
The Clarity of these scopes is amazing. http://opticstalk.com/post-your-rigs-here_topic8391_post465645.html#465645 |
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Don't have one, but I wouldn't expect parallax to be an issue for hunting.
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I use a 3-9x36 Swarovski on my .22lr and very happy I am too!
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I can report now on the precise price for a Kahles parallax-distance change: $340. Just got the news from Swarovski USA. To say I'm gobsmacked would be an understatement. I can get this service on my Leupolds for about $25.
Seems clear that Kahles doesn't give a fig about customer service--at least in North America. I wonder what the poor sods in Europe pay for this (really quite quick and easy) service. |
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3_tens, those are two really lovely Coopers--fully deserving of the Kahles scopes on top. The wood on them looks like an upgrade over the usual Cooper wood (which is very nice without upgrades). |
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That's a nice scope--not too large for a rimfire and possessing good optics. For what it's worth, in my discussions with the Swarovski USA rep regarding a parallax change with the Kahles 2-7, he mentioned that this could be done much more reasonably ($50) on a Swarovski scope. Not sure if you're interested in this, but, if I had a Swaro 3-9x36 for a rimfire, I'd have the parallax-free distance changed to 50 yds. |
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Never noticed anything being a problem with the paralax set to 100yd to be honest. If you do want a nice scope, I've been impressed with the 3-9x40 EFR Nikon scope. My Dad has one and rates it, I can see why. |
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Zeiss makes the Conquest 3X9X40 in a rimfire version which would be great. Leupold has a 3-9 EFR version that is excellent. Weaver has a couple of nice rimfire scopes. My favorite on my Anzchutz 1416 is a Leupold VXII 4-12 AO find duplex. I like the size and magnification range. I can focus on 12 X to approx. 25 yards. A very high end rimfire scope would be a Nightforce NSX 2.5-10X42 which has parallax adjustment to 10 yards. competitor makes a very nice Japanese constructed 3-9 rimfire with finger adjustable turrets. |
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I probably attach more weight to aesthetics than most gun owners, and,
to my eye, a scope with an objective bell OD greater than 2.0" just
doesn't look quite right on a rimfire rifle, and those right at 2.0" (of
which there are many) are pushing the aesthetics envelope in my
opinion. In the same vein, scopes with 30 mm. main tubes look too big
for a rimfire, although one such scope, the March 1-10x24, pictured in the 4th post in this thread, would seem to
overcome its chubbiness with a nicely-reduced objective bell--1.30".
The other thing I look for in any rimfire scope is either (a) a parallax-zeroed range of 50 yards or (b) adjustable parallax/focus, either by AO or side focus. It's very hard to find a scope that meets both criteria--aesthetics and parallax range. There are a couple of Leupolds that have objective ODs less than 2.0" and parallax adjustment (like the 3-9x33 EFR mentioned above by R H Clark), but none of the better European scopes, and after a lifetime of owning Leupold scopes, I haven't found their optical quality to be really first-rate (although they do have many other desirable features). One of the better European scopes that comes close is the Swarovski Z3 3-9x36. It is nicely-proportioned for a rimfire, being 12" long, with objective OD of 1.65", and weighs only 12 oz. However, it comes parallax-free at 100 m. and would have to be adjusted by Swarovski to change the parallax-free range to 50 yards. This Swarovski will do for $50, which sure beats the Kahles service fee of $340 for the same adjustment. |
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