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Just a thought... whether or not Cruz made a mistake by not specifically saying he endorses Donald Trump in his speech, he's not the one responsible for healing the wounds and unifying the party. Donald Trump is. Trump is our nominee. Trump is the one most responsible for the bad blood. Trump is the one who chose to make everything personal because that is his character and that was his only move since so far, he lacks the speaking skills and knowledge to talk intelligently about actual policy. Or to even tie two sentences on the same topic together to form a coherent thought, for that matter. Trump lacks the humility to accept criticism, so he always feels he has to "one-up" his opponents and attack them and their families personally in the most vile and juvenile ways possible.

Read the text of Cruz's speech. Although he didn't actually say the words "vote for Trump," he did congratulate Trump, and he encouraged people not to vote for Hillary. He also didn't say anything negative and covered all the major positive themes of the conservative platform. 

Ask yourself this... if someone had accused you of cheating on your wife, poked fun of your wife's appearance, AND accused your father of being involved in the assassination of a US president, would you give that person your endorsement for anything? Personally, I was raised in a world where that kind of behavior in a supposed "adult" is to be despised. 

I realize we need to all band together to defeat Hillary, but I think a reasonable person who puts themselves in his shoes can understand why Cruz wouldn't be thrilled to grovel at the feet of a "man" who insulted his family members in unbelievably unacceptable fashion. Yeah, Cruz pledged to support the eventual nominee. However, all bets are off when you personally attack a man's family. 

Endorsements are over-rated. This will blow over and be forgotten in a few months. Trump is our candidate, not Cruz. Trump is the one most responsible for the divide in our party as a direct result of his own behavior, so it is HIS responsibility to fix it. Trump needs to be more disciplined and reign in his mouth. You reap what you sow.
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True Ted but.... politics is a dirty game. Ted Cruz / Cruz loyalists slid out a lot of junk too. That aside, I'll vote for Trump even though I don't much like him. 
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Agree that politics is dirty. However, there's always been an unspoken rule that you don't attack someone's family members who are unable to defend themselves. The difference here is that Trump personally attacked Cruz's wife and father, whereas it was Cruz supporters who criticized Melania Trump for the nude photos; Cruz had nothing to do with that. And, it was Trump who started the personal and family attacks, not Cruz. Remember, Trump also compared Ben Carson to a child molester. 

The whole "support pledge" was raised to begin with because Trump initially refused to say he would support the nominee if it wasn't him AND he also wouldn't endorse the nominee the last time he ran for POTUS. Trump routinely gets a pass for doing the exact same things multiple times over what Cruz gets his azz handed to him over. It's a major double standard.

I'm gonna vote for the SOB just like I voted for McLame and Romney only because the only viable alternative sucks even worse. I'm tired of being pissed off about my options every damn election cycle. Mark my words, Trump will not fulfill the majority of his campaign promises because he's a congenital liar and a fraud. I will happily eat my words if that proves false, but I honestly don't think so given his well-documented past of not living up to his hyperbole. It sucks having to vote for a person who donated $100K to the Clinton Foundation as our alternative to voting for Clinton her/himself. 
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

I liked Ted Cruz, but what he did last night was in my opinion politicalShoot Self I'm going to have real trouble supporting him in the future.


He basically signaled to his staunch supporters to not vote for Trump (or not to vote at all) which is a vote for Hillary, which F's us all.
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Ted we agree on everything except that I actually have some respect for Cruz and so I hold him to a higher standard than I do Trump.

He made a promise, for whatever reason, and he should keep that promise.  There is a plethora of ways for him to word it in such a way that noone make a mistake of thinking this is anything other than keeping a promise.

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Oh, and I forgot to add, for everyone who thinks that Trump is not "establishment", you are on crack.  He has been deeply embroiled in New York and Washington politics except on the lobbying side.  He knows what he is doing and he is playing all of you like a fine violin.

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The whole thing is a little foolish, in my opinion.  Just because he didn't endorse Trump, doesn't mean that he will be voting Democratic, or that he's encouraging anyone else to do so.  The whole thing was just 'surprising'.  

However, all of his enemies are making a big deal out of it....and I do think it was a  very petulant thing to do.  
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Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

I liked Ted Cruz, but what he did last night was in my opinion politicalShoot Self I'm going to have real trouble supporting him in the future.


He basically signaled to his staunch supporters to not vote for Trump (or not to vote at all) which is a vote for Hillary, which F's us all.

Like Trump did in his last run for POTUS, in addition to continually threatening to go 3rd party if he didn't get the treatment he felt he deserved? If Cruz had won, I honestly don't believe Trump would've endorsed him either, just as he hasn't endorsed previous R nominees.

Ted emphasized in his speech that nobody should stay home on election day and to NOT vote for Hillary. He did everything except specifically endorse Trump, only because of personal animosity, and he did not bring up the personal animosity at all. He did not discourage anyone to vote for Trump, he simply didn't praise Trump. I think it would've been better if he'd not spoken at the convention at all; just show up and wave to people. Or he could've simply said something like "As everyone knows, Donald and I have had profound differences, but now is time for us all to rally behind our nominee and keep Hillary out of the White House." That would've accomplished the same thing and still not have been a specific endorsement. I do think he made a mistake, but he doesn't owe Trump any praise after the despicable way Trump behaved, promise or not. A pledge presumes everyone involved is honorable, and Trump conducted his campaign dishonorably.

If I promised to donate to a charity, for example, and later found out that charity was fraudulently using donations, it isn't dishonorable of me to rescind my support because my good faith trust was betrayed.
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I do not trust Trump. I love what he is saying. I am also wise enough to see that over the past 50 years seldom has whats been said has been followed by the same action. Trump is alienating both parties. He will need both parties to accomplish anything at all, other than to help incite a civil war that will destroy it all..
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It is such a shame to go through all of this every four years believing things will better, only to have the whole hurdy-gurdy come grinding to a halt a week after the Inauguration as soon as the new Congress begins their new session of Business As Usual.....

....and WE THE PEOPLE are screwed, and suckered, again. 
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All DJT wants is to be treated fairly. LOL. Give me a break. 
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" Wouldn't it be nice if this time it really was for real, and Trump actually won and actually changed everything around? " 























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Like Trump did in his last run for POTUS, in addition to continually threatening to go 3rd party if he didn't get the treatment he felt he deserved? If Cruz had won, I honestly don't believe Trump would've endorsed him either, just as he hasn't endorsed previous R nominees.

Ted emphasized in his speech that nobody should stay home on election day and to NOT vote for Hillary. He did everything except specifically endorse Trump, only because of personal animosity, and he did not bring up the personal animosity at all. He did not discourage anyone to vote for Trump, he simply didn't praise Trump. I think it would've been better if he'd not spoken at the convention at all; just show up and wave to people. Or he could've simply said something like "As everyone knows, Donald and I have had profound differences, but now is time for us all to rally behind our nominee and keep Hillary out of the White House." That would've accomplished the same thing and still not have been a specific endorsement. I do think he made a mistake, but he doesn't owe Trump any praise after the despicable way Trump behaved, promise or not. A pledge presumes everyone involved is honorable, and Trump conducted his campaign dishonorably.

If I promised to donate to a charity, for example, and later found out that charity was fraudulently using donations, it isn't dishonorable of me to rescind my support because my good faith trust was betrayed.


Thanks for clearing that up Ted, I jumped the gun, not happy right now with everything going on in Kali.
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To sum up the Republican National Convention last week; there seemed to be some little gaff everyday that the media made a big deal out of. In truth there just wasn't really that much of a fiasco in any of it. I didn't know until Friday afternoon that Marco Rubio made a video endorsement of Trump just before Cruz was on stage. To me that is a bigger deal than what Ted Cruz didn't say. Ted is also right that while Cruz didn't say "I endorse", he also didn't say "don't vote for". If anything, at worse, it was a back handed endorsement over the Hildabeast.
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THIS JUST IN!!!  

Bernie supporters wearing LOCK HER UP shirts!!   Excellent


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