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Gil P.
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I finally got my rifle shooting how I want it to. Im really impressed with the results. Im getting half moa groups with 44.0 grains of Reloder 15 from a factory rifle if you can believe it. The first picture is 44gr of Reloder 15; I messed the first group up the left leg of the bipod kept lifting up. The next two groups are perfect.
The second picture is 47.1 gr of VV N550. I was losing concentration on the last group on the right and the left leg of the bipod kept lifting again, otherwise they shot well too. All groups are 5 shots, shot from a bipod and rear bag in the prone position at 100 yards. Would anyone have any idea as to why the left leg of the bipod is lifting under recoil? It increases my group size and I dont know what im doing wrong. The rifle is a Rem 700 AAC-SD .308 with an SWFA 12X42. |
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Have you tried shooting it without using the bi-pod? That may give you an idea of what the rifle can do without interference????
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Are you "loading" the bi-pod when your shooting?
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Gil P.
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I havent, but im perfectly happy with the accuracy im getting out of it now.
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Gil P.
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Yes, im pushing it forward as well as pushing the stock into my body. It still happens.
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do you still have to "load" the bi-pod if you're not concerned about hitting high? My understanding is that if you don't load it.. you will impact higher compared to shooting off a rest that is not attached to the rifle.
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jonoMT
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Check that you're pulling straight back on the trigger with the pad of your finger, not the tip. It should be at a 90 deg. angle to the trigger. And keep pulling the stock back into your shoulder until you get the scope back on target.
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Reaction time is a factor...
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Mike McDonald
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Don't preload the bipod. Leave it neutral.
Do not pull the rifle to you, push youself to the rifle. The rifle lifts to the right because you are not squarely behind the stock, or are leaning the rifle with your shoulder to "steer" the scope onto the target. Elevation is controlled wit hthe off hand under the butt, or a bag under the butt. Windage is corrected by moving the hips behind the rifle, and staying square to the gun. Done correctly you'll be able to see the escaping gas cloud and crosshairs will remain on target during recoil. |
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cheaptrick
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Does this rifle have the Hogue stock?
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Gil P.
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Thanks for the advice Mike and for the video cheaptrick. I like constructive criticism.
Cheaptrick, it no longer has the hogue stock. I replaced it with a Bell and Carlson M40 some time ago. |
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I am just going to file this in my "forever" file.
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Gil P.
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I shouldnt pull the rifle into myself at all? I have been trying to preload the bipod by pushing myself into it and then I pull the rifle into my body. I have also been shoving my right shoulder forward a little bit. Ill take your advice and see if it helps, I definitaly have an improper technique.
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I would do EXACTLY as Mr. Mike has recommended. To say that Mike M can shoot good, is like saying the Pope is a little Catholic. Seriously...
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Mike McDonald
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I always love it when you "chime in", Mike... great stuff, just great stuff. You ever think about giving lessons? Some people don't teach this stuff, anymore.Kind words........thank you.
I did teach this for about 15 years. You old guys know why I quit
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Gil P.
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Thanks for the advice Mike, I appreciate the help.
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Mike McDonald
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Gil
Always move the body to the rifle. the rifle is in charge here. When you square up behind the rifle, move forward until your shoulder, in a relaxed position, touches the rifle butt. At this point you should not be conscious of having to hold that position, it's just where you came to rest in contact with the rifle. Next, position your shooting hand on the stock. With trigger finger layed beside the action, you should be able to use the remaining three fingers ( assuming you haven't shot one off at some other time ) to curl around the grip without exterting any real force. Then just perceptibly flex those three fingers rearward and you should feel the stock lock into your shoulder. You've done that with less than 2 pounds of rearward pressure. At this point, if you are prone with feet apart, lightly flex your left foot like you are pressing downward, but your foot is going to slide along the ground slightly. As you do this watch the crosshairs of the scope. You'll see that you can make single moa changes in point of aim without altering verticle displacement, and without any real effort to hold position. flexing the right foot makes windage changes in the opposite direction. All this should feel just like you were relaxing on the ground. Try it, it works every time. Good luck!
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Nice shooting and nice rifle. That 44grn r15/175 load is an ol reliable in a 1-10 twist bolt rifle!
But be careful shooting that one in an ar 10 for it can slam the bolt hard!
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Gil P.
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Thanks; there is one poor group for both the VV N550 and Reloder 15 due to my bipod getting out of whack. But thats my fault; im really happy with the other groups and hopefully by taking Mikes advice and of course practicing more, they can all be like that. |
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