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1winnen
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Posted: July/11/2012 at 09:39 |
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Hi. First let me state that I'm retired and on a limited budget so I'm trying not to spend more then say $100. I'm looking at 2 scopes for my AK which I've modified with a Leapers AK-47 TriRail Tactical See Thru Scope Mount, Fusion AK-47 Upper and Lower Handguard and a AK-47 T6 Folding Stock. The 2 scopes I'm looking at are the NcSTAR 2-7x32 Compact Scope 3 Rail Sighting System / Blue Illuminated Mil-Dot and a NcSTAR Mark III Tactical 3-9x42 mm Mil-Dot Scope from Walmart. I realize the max range for my AK is about 300yds but I would like a good Tactical for it. I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions. Thanks.
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1winnen
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Well I guess no one has any comments or suggestions. I wish I could afford to spend more but like I said being on a fixed income it's just not possible. Thanks anyway.
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SVT_Tactical
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Didn't see this til now. I'll offer my 2 cents, don't waste your money on either. Save a bit more and use irons until then. You ultimatly will not be happy with the substandard glass and you'll be lucky if either hold zero through initial sight in. Very few scopes come to mind that would be worth recommending IMO for your current budget. that said here are a few to look at that would be MUCH better than the NcStars you're looking at
Hope these help guide you a bit. BTW welcome to the OT
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stork23raz
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SVT is right. the glass on these would be much better, and general overal quality, and the most important part is that your point of impact won’t change. You MIGHT get the gun zeroed with ncstar, but how long it will holds that zero is unknowable, but probably not long. Leapers, NCstar, Countersniper scopes, are designed to be ugly paper weights. The scopes SVT mentioned about will last you, you will be much more satisfied and you will be getting your money’s worth. |
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1winnen
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Thanks for the suggestions. Are there any with Mil-dot reticles in either the 2-7 or 3-9 varable tht any of you would suggests in say the $100-150 price range?
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SVT_Tactical
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Going up to $150 -
Already talked about the Sightron SI's. I believe if if you really want MilDot this is going to be the best option
Of all thats listed, I'd go Sightron but thats just my pick.
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SVT_Tactical
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Changing gears a bit because of the known accuracy, or lack there of on most AK's, i'd also look at red dots, here are a few from the Sample List that may work as well as a scope or two that would be close to budget but get you better glass.
Then again if your wanting new only -
these would work well and they are Vortex.
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koshkin
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OK.
The first step would be to take that Leapers Tri-rail mount and throw it in the garbage (or use it as paper weigh or something along those lines). Both of the scopes you are looking at also make respectable paperweights, but their utility in any other capacity is severely limited. Get a proper AK sidemount of some sort (there are sidemount to weaver versions). Then mount a simple scope from a reasonably well known maker on it. Forget the whole tactical business. In your price range it simply does not exist. Get a Pentax Gameseeker scope. There are a few of them in your price range. There is nothing wrong with being on a budget. However, if you are on a tight budget, stay away from scopes that offer a large number of features. That almost guarantees that they will not work. Stick with the basics. ILya
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sholling
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I agree with the others - it's cheaper to buy a better scope once than it is to buy a glorified paperweight and replace it when it breaks.
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Bitterroot Bulls
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Swap the mount, and get the Sightron. Mil Dots are kind of tatical.
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Alan Robertson
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What Ilya Koshkin said.
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1winnen
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I would like to thank all of you for your comments and suggestions. However, I can't see throwing away about $100, Leapers Trirail Mount and Truglo Red Dot Dual Scope, at this time. Thanks again.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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You might need to think about this statement. If you are coming here to ask advice after already making a faulty choice then expecting us to say well done then you asked too late. If you expect to hear us tell you by all means buy a scope that is TACTIcool with lots of features that will ultimately be a disappointment then you are probably asking the wrong guys and need to find someone who has no conscience and will lie to you. The suggestions made so far are solid suggestions. I suggest you stay with a simple scope like a fixed 4x or 6x or a traditional 3-9 which are the most common scopes. I have one of the Sightron S1 3-9 Mil Dot scopes and it has worked well for what it cost.
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Grant
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Okay, I am a "HUGE" AK-phile, I've got 3 AK47's, 1 AK74 and two RPK's, all with an optic mount of some sort. (Or at least the possibility if I want to scope them).
#!. That leapers "Tril-rail mount" I am assuming is a dustcover mount? If so, no offence: but I can ALMOST garuntee that your gun's groups will halve if you switch mounts. The dustcover mounts I've seen (Except for the Texas Weapons Systems mount) will not hold zero and turn good shooters into shotguns.
If your gun has a siderail, get the UTG 3rd gen siderail mount with the ALLEN BOLT mounting. For being cheap and $25, the thing is solid, I've used 3, beat the dickens out of them and they don't come loose.
#2. Your scope might work out. Truglo's are not the bottom-barrel. That said, if you want good+cheap: Save a bit and the Weaver Classic 1-3X scope is a good, short-eyerelief, compact scope.
The Sightron 3-9 Mil-dot is okay....I've got one and been un-impressed with it. First shot the magnification ring froze and the scope went fuzzy, glass inside came loose. BUT..sightron was super-fast in shipping a replacement and that one has been okay, but I've only mounted it on a .223, not a .308 like the first one.
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1winnen
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I just wanted to say that I have taken ALL of your comments and suggestions seriously and I do plan on changing the Leapers Tri-rail as soon as I'm able to afford it. Being on a fixed income limits my spending. I would, if possible, like to see if there's anyway I can just remove the rails from the dust cover although I think they are riveted on and it's already been DURACOATED, or find the orginal one. To be honest, when I modified my AK AND my nephews I was thinking more about how cool it looked before actually getting any advise. So once again I thank ALL of you for your advise.
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