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So many people are comparing the Fullfield II to the Bushnell Elite 4200 that I wonder if that is too much. My friend recently picked up a 3200 and the light quality and transmission is amazing, and its price is very good. On the other hand I read nothing but good reviews about the Fullfield and its price is the same. I just picked up a Remington 700 ADL for my first gun as it was on clearance for $299. Its a 7mag so its going to be able to reach out and kiss some deer, and since I am a new hunter the Ballistic Plex recticle really makes me feel good about those long shots. Should I go with the Fullfield? I am going to get the 3-9x50 due to my eyes not being all that great at dusk hours and I am willing to spend a little more for a little more light. 
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The FFII is more in line with the 3200.  The 4200 is a superior scope to the 3200.  The 50mm is really no brighter than a 40mm in the real world.  It will let you operate on higher magnifications. 

 

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First, killer deal on the Remington

 

The Burris Fullfield is a very good scope.  Its very solid and offers a lot for the money.  I have not hunted with the Bushnell 3200 but I know people that do and they really like the scope.  In my opinion I'd take the Burris over the 3200 just because I've used the Burris. Both are great scopes and I think it would be a personal preference.

 

Again, my opinon only, but I dont think the Burris Fullfield is in the same class as the Bushnell 4200 Elite.  I think the 4200 is definitly a step up in optics and also in price. 

 

 I picked up a Zeiss Conquest based on what I have read here and it has been a GREAT scope.  At the same time I found a great deal on a Bushnell 4200.  I picked it up mainly on comments I read here on this forum.  I have to be honest I didnt have much faith in a Bushnell product but that 4200 made me a believer...it is a very very good scope for the money.

 

Something to look at that also has impressed the heck out of me is the Weaver Grand Slam.  Some people dont like the look of the adjustment ring, personally I dont mind it in fact in areas where it snows its great for use with a gloved hand.  The optics on the Weaver Grand Slam are very very clear and bright.  I compared to another well known brand one with a gold ring on the front and I'd take the Grand Slam any day. Personally, I'd take the Weaver Grand Slam over the Bushnell 3200 Elite and the Burris Fullfield, I would probably still take the 4200 Elite but the Weaver is another great choice to look at.

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 The Grand Slam is the best overall hunting scope for the money in my opinion. The glass is a step above the fullfield II and elite 3200, and very close to the 4200. The micro-trac adjustments in my opinion are better than the adjustments found on the elite 4200 scope.
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   Having read all the positive comments, I picked up a 3-9X40 3200 Elite for one of my .308 hunting rifles.  The scope looks and functions well- - the optics are good, the click adjustments are positive, and it always maintains zero, even when moving through different magnifications.  I have since picked up another 3200.  I don't think you can go wrong with this scope. 
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Fullfield II is a better scope than Elite 3200 (both are tough, Fullfield II has better glass).  Weaver Grand Slam is an awesome scope for the money, but not as good as SIghtron S2, IMO. 

 

I would not obsess about a reticle too much.  Duplex reticle should work just fine.

 

As for the Ballistic Plex, it is ceratinly very helpful for holdover, but I would most definitely advise any new shooter (as well as a vast majority of not so new shooters) to not fire a shot at a deer if the distance requires holdover.  I have seen very few people that have any business shooting at big game beyond 200 yards (including me) from field positions.  If you are shooting off hand, or in a rush, half of that is reasonable.  A very eye-opening experience for a lot of people is to jog up and down a hill for 20 minutes than do 30 pushups than try to hit a target at 100 yards.  It is quite remarkable how much worse your shooting gets.

 

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I need to try a sightron, i have heard nothing but good about the SII series!
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So I'm pretty set on the Fullfield II now. My question now is which one is right for me? I like the 50mm but it seems like everyone says that is overkill. I also like the higher magnification, and the 4.5-14x42mm seems like a good all around competitor and it has parallax adjustment. Is this a good deal, or should I just go with the 3-9x40, or is the 3-9x50 going to make a huge difference.
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If this is a scope for hunting deer and other big game, your best bet is to get something of a 3-9x40 variety.  Keep it on 3x for 99% of the shots you might take and you'll do just fine.  Higher magnification and 50mm objectives are quite unnecessary for your needs.  Most people end up using 9x for target shooting and sighting in and 3x-6x for use in the field.

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Alright that makes sense, so I think my safest bet is to is to get the 4.5-14x42, 1) because I can use it for spotting with the higher mag. b/c I don't have a seperate spotting scope 2) because of the adjustable parallax and 3) a little bigger exit diameter. Its really not a lot more and 4.5 seems like a good starting mag.

Seem like a safe bet to you guys?  
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Well, I could certainly be wrong on this, but generally using your riflescope as a spotting scope is really not the way to go (except looking at the bullet holes when at the shooting range).  4.5-14x42 will certainly work, but it is more than you need.  Adjustable parallax does not make a squat of difference when shooting at deer inside of 300 yards.  It is useful when varminting or target shooting.

 

As for a little bigger exit pupil with a 42mm objective bell vs 40mm, there is really not enough difference to worry about.  Your eye can only dilate to 7mm (when it is very dark), so late in the evening, at 6x you'll have all the exit pupil that you will need.

 

Ilya 

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