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Nikon vs. Burris? Which one? What say you? Thanks...
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Well they are both pretty comparable from what Ive read but there are minor differences. They may be pretty close optically but here are the differences that would matter to me. The buckmaster is multi coated on the outer lenses while the Fullfield is FULLY MULTI COATED on all lenses. The bucmaster has a 1 inch tube with adjustments saddle attatched while the Fullfield has a one piece tube and saddle which is more rugged. Im not sure about the erector spring in the buckmaster but the fullfield has two springs holding the adjustments in place while most have one. The buckmaster however has eye relief which stays the same at all magnifications while the fullfield changes a little from highest to lowest power. I believe the matte finish on the buckmaster may be a bit more durable than that on the fullfield which scrapes off more easily. One other thing. Ive noticed that Bushnell and Nikon scopes that Ive had tend to have plex wire reticles that turn silver or almost transparent in color when the sun or any other light source is at different angles overhead or behind when looking through the scope. The Fullfield however the reticle stays black and have never noticed it reflect light and turn colors. Ironically I had a Burris Sig. Select and Eurodiamond that did the same thing but the Fullfield did not do this. I think it is all a matter of position of the reticle in the scope. These are only technical differences which may or not matter to you as both are rated to be good scopes. If you are rough on your equipment I would go with the Burris, If you are careful with it then either would be fine I think.
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Originally posted by GaryO GaryO wrote:

Nikon vs. Burris? Which one? What say you? Thanks...

Perhaps a better question might be, "Diamondback or Buckmaster?".

Koshkin recently weighed-in on inexpensive scopes.  Though the Buckmaster wasn't in the test, the FFII was. 


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A good question is what power range you want. There is a big difference between the 3-9 FF ll to the 4.5-14 FF ll. The 3-9 FF ll is not near the quality of the much better glass in the 4.5-14. I could never recommend the 3-9 FF ll because of the small sweet spot and the fadeout toward the edges. Where this is not seen in the 4.5-14 FF ll. The Burris 4.5-14 has a wow factor.It is much brighter than the Buckmaster in the same power range.
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Burris FFII...although on my last hunt in December I was hunting a fiber optic line and as the sun started setting behind me it caused the reticle to reflect light back into my eye...not bad, didn't affect my ability to see, just had to move the scope around to keep it from distracting me.  1st time I've ever seen that but I was at a weird angle looking down.

I own the Burris FFII and I just purchased a Nikon Team Primos because of my brother's Buckmaster...don't get me wrong, the Burris is more than likely the best scope out there for the money (I gave $150 for it shipped 2 years ago) and it is tough as nails!  But that Buckmaster has great eye relief and for my eyes a little better clarity at last light.

With all that said, I would buy the Nikon Team Primos over the Buckmaster...step up to a one piece tube with Monarch glass (95% light transmission)...fully multi-coated glass and SWFA is running these for $199 with a free camo jacket.  HOWEVER, with the toughness of the Burris - have no doubt, this thing is built to last! - I would have to flip a coin and still not sure which one I'd walk out with...good luck in your choice!
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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

A good question is what power range you want. There is a big difference between the 3-9 FF ll to the 4.5-14 FF ll. The 3-9 FF ll is not near the quality of the much better glass in the 4.5-14. I could never recommend the 3-9 FF ll because of the small sweet spot and the fadeout toward the edges. Where this is not seen in the 4.5-14 FF ll. The Burris 4.5-14 has a wow factor.It is much brighter than the Buckmaster in the same power range.
 
I agree, the 4.5-14x42 FFII is a very clear scope, just as clear as my Monarch IMO and much clearer than my Buckmaster.  I've looked thro a 3-9x40 FFII and it wasn't even in the same league.
 
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Burris FFI 3x9 "Made in China"? Too bad...
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Originally posted by GaryO GaryO wrote:

Burris FFI 3x9 "Made in China"? Too bad...

last time i checked the FFII is made in the philipines.

look at this: http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=21176


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When you compare the glass in the 3-9 FF ll to any of the other scopes that Burris puts out, it makes one wonder why they are trying to put themselves out of business. The 3-9 FF ll is in the position to be a big seller.  At the same time it is so disappointing that the buyers of this scope never look thru another Burris product.  Burris is loosing sales just because of of the poor optical quality in what should be the main advertising sells position in their lineup. Poor choice Burris.

Edited by 3_tens - February/01/2010 at 14:26
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