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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

...and the only difference is one is made with steel tubing and the other is made with aluminum tubing.  I am a pretty stout fellow and if you are in NC like I am, eastern part, we hunt stands, so weight, especially that small of an amount is not a concern. 
 
I don't have any experience with Meopta scopes, other than looking through them inside stores, but I can comment on steel vs. aluminum alloy tubes.  As you stated, the difference in weight isn't very significant, but one thing that may be worth consideration is finish durability.  An aluminum tube scope will have a hard anodized finish, whereas a steel tube scope will be a sprayed and baked on finish.  The anodized finish on aluminum scopes is a little more durable and scratch resistant than the painted finish on the steel tube scopes.  If any of the finish on a steel tube scope flakes off, it can also potentially rust.  This may not be a huge concern; if you're careful not to get your scope scratched up, the steel tube should be fine.
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Good point.
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Yeow!  I must have struck a nerve with the "optics scale" post!!  And yes, my "old eyes" are bionically assisted and include both brightness and sharpness meters.  In case you couldn't read between the lines, my post was LARGELY tongue-in-cheek.  Gotta keep this stuff light, you see, for fear we would actually start believing one another!  Peace.  Drummer
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Gosh.  One more thing.  My opinion, like most posters here, is unbiased.  I don't care what scope anyone buys, or if they prefer to use receiver sights, or throw a boomerang for that matter!  I don't work in the optics business.  I do shoot a lot, and enjoy passing my experiences along to other shooters.  Fortunately for me, lots of other shooters feel the same!  I read and listen.  I learn.  I develop opinions when appropriate and post away.  Now where are those lips?  They're nice looking.  Drummer
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Squeeze Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/21/2008 at 19:30
Originally posted by ncdrummer ncdrummer wrote:

Gosh.  One more thing.  My opinion, like most posters here, is unbiased.  I don't care what scope anyone buys, or if they prefer to use receiver sights, or throw a boomerang for that matter!  I don't work in the optics business.  I do shoot a lot, and enjoy passing my experiences along to other shooters.  Fortunately for me, lots of other shooters feel the same!  I read and listen.  I learn.  I develop opinions when appropriate and post away.  Now where are those lips?  They're nice looking.  Drummer
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what's weird is that those are ACTUALLY big squeeze's lips. Shocked
 
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Originally posted by jonbravado jonbravado wrote:

what's weird is that those are ACTUALLY big squeeze's lips. Shocked
 
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my wife would kill me and then spread rumors, ima have to pass!!!! Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grouper sandwich Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/06/2008 at 19:03
Hey guys, I'm new here.  Just registered after finding this thread on google.  Did anyone ever determine the difference between the Artemis and the Meostar?  I've got a Meostar 3-10x50 and it is an EXCELLENT scope.  I'm eyeballing an Artemis 3000 (3-9x42) but I can't seem to figure what the difference is between it and a Meostar.  Anyone know?
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The Meostar is the Newer Model with supposedly Better, Newer lens coatings and with an aluminum tube. The Artemis is the Older Model from the ninties, steel tube, with the former lens coating. I understand that both are very nice, but the Meostar is supposed to be very bright indeed.   --Ed
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There are a few different artemis models out there - not all are steel tubes. From the catalogue I have at home, this is what I can recall (will check tonight when I get home and edit if I have been mistaken):
 
Artemis 2000 - Steel Tube
Artemis 2100 - Illum version?
Artemis 3000 - Aluminium Tube
Meostar - Aluminium Tube
 
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Meostar and Artemis have dfferent optical systems, different glass and different coatings.  Meostars are better.

Also, I recall earlier in this thread someone saying that Zeiss does the coatings for Meopta.  THat is the first I hear of that, and I would be surprised if that was correct.  Meopta does make the glass for Conquest scopes to Zeiss' spec, but Meopta's own scopes have nothing to do with Zeiss.  As a side note, Meopta is the largest contract optics manufacturer in Europe.

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Thanks Koshkin, that's what I was looking for.  Here's anohter question for you.  If someone put a Zeiss Conquest on the counter next to an Artemis (both in 3-9) and said pick one, it's yours...which one would you take?
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conquest, without a doubt.
 
if it were a MEOSTAR and a conquest - the decision would be a little different - as the glass is really close on both - the slight advantage would go to conquest for eye relief.
 
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So does that mean you'd pick the Conquest over the ARTEMIS?  I have a Meostar 3-10x50 on my 25-06 and it's an incredible scope, and if the choice was between a Meostar and a Conquest you're correct, it would be an no brianer since I already know where BOTH of those scopes stand.  But, the choice is between and ARTEMIS and a Conquest, both in a 3-9 platform. 
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I would pick the Conquest because of the eye relief.... I think Meopta's are on the short side when it comes to ER!
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OK, just a side track here, but what is evryone's big issue with eye relief?  I'm new to the Optics forums, so you guys will have to cut me some slack, but I keep seeing "longer eye relief" brought up as a reason not to buy scope brand X,Y, or Z.  I never relized, I suppose, that eye relief was that big of an issue.  I prefer the shorter eye relief of my Meostar because I like to creep up the stock and I can't do that with long ER.  In 30 years of shooting, I've never been whacked by a scope.  Anyway, I guess what I'm looking for is "optically speaking" which would someone choose, the Conquest or the Artemis?  So far I can only determine that the Artemis is a step down from the Meostar and some people like a longer eye relief than a Meopta offers.  Throw eye relief out the window, it doesn't exist for this argument.  Besides, if my 22-250 tags me with 3" of eye relief I've got bigger problems than having chosen the wrong scope.Shocked
 
I just thought about something here, I posted all of this on a thread entitled "Artemis vs. Meostar.  I guess I should've started a new thread about Artemis and Conquest.  Oooops.Whacko
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Originally posted by grouper sandwich grouper sandwich wrote:

Thanks Koshkin, that's what I was looking for.  Here's anohter question for you.  If someone put a Zeiss Conquest on the counter next to an Artemis (both in 3-9) and said pick one, it's yours...which one would you take?


Conquest over Artemis.

Meostar over Conquest if eye relief is not an issue.

IOR over all of the above.

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Originally posted by grouper sandwich grouper sandwich wrote:

........  I prefer the shorter eye relief of my Meostar because I like to creep up the stock and I can't do that with long ER.............  
 
 
It's so funny how different folks like different strokes......... I want the longer ER so I don't have to creep!  To me "creep" is a BAD thing..... really bad thing!
 
Since ER isn't an issue then....... I'd want to look thru them side by side and then decide which I like best!
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