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Nobody said the looks equate performance either. What i said was I was dissapointed by the looks of the reticle after being spoiled by the Zeiss reticle. Personal preference not performance. I have no doubt that this scope will serve me well in the field - just a little dissapointed that's all.  The WOW factor just wasn't there for me. To answer your question-I don't know why you spend $525 on it? You are the one who offered to buy it -that is what I would sell it for.   Bricat                                                        
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I guess kahles could have done as so many others do and scrimped a little, by placing a sticker over the screw hole huh? No they actually put something in there and something that unless you want it out is not coming out.
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Originally posted by bricat bricat wrote:

Nobody said the looks equate performance either. What i said was I was dissapointed by the looks of the reticle after being spoiled by the Zeiss reticle. Personal preference not performance. I have no doubt that this scope will serve me well in the field - just a little dissapointed that's all.  The WOW factor just wasn't there for me. To answer your question-I don't know why you spend $525 on it? You are the one who offered to buy it -that is what I would sell it for.   Bricat                                                        
 
whoa now i never said i wanted to buy anything, with all the complaints your making about it i was just suggesting you should sell it if you dont like it. the difference between the zeiss and the kahles is about the same diffference as a peterbilt and a kenworth, both are very nice both will do what you need and both are built very well, just some minor differences separate them
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bricat, I'm honestly not trying to bust your chops with my comments, I just sincerely don't understand why being able to see a slight color change in the reticle when you hold it just so in the right light is a big deal.  Then again, I'm annoyed by the fact Zeiss uses plastic turret caps, even on their top of the line VM/V scopes, yet this isn't a big deal to others.  Even though I know it's meaningless to the performance of the scope, to me, I still don't like the idea that Zeiss uses cheap plastic caps on an expensive scope, so I guess I can relate to what you're saying on some level.  There are pros and cons to every single product you buy, even expensive products.  I've found the Kahles outperforms the Conquest in low light and has better resolution in good light.  I can't say I've ever heard anyone who owns both say they thought the Conquest outperformed the Kahles optically after doing a fair head to head comparison.  But, optics recommendations will always be based largely on subjective opinions, so you'll never find 100% unanimous agreement on anything.  Conquest is certainly less expensive, has nice optics, and represents an excellent value though.  If the differences in the reticles is that significant to you, then I believe I'd sell the Kahles and buy more Conquests.  
 
As for the "putty" in the setscrew holes, is it just the word "putty" that bothers you?  It's not as if they just went to a craft store, picked out some black colored modeling clay and decided that would make a good material to cover up the screws.  I'm sure they experimented with various materials and found whatever that stuff is to be a good solution for hiding the screw long-term.  It's worth noting that other optics manufacturers use the same stuff for the same purpose.  If they had instead called it "thermally stable viscoelastic polymer," would that have made a difference?  Again, it serves no functional purpose other than hiding the screw, not for any sealing function.  For what it's worth, my Schmidt and Bender Zenith scope has the same "putty" filled setscrew hole on the bottom of the eyepiece and it retails for roughly 2.5X the price of the Kahles CL.  If it bothers you knowing that it's there, you can simply pick it out of the hole with a needle and it won't hurt anything.
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Like already said this whole game is simply about PREFERENCE you like what you like and you tend to use what you like. That simple for me, if an etched reticle appeals to me....and it most certainly does....than I will buy scopes with an etched reticle. It doesn't matter if others don't mind, but for me I will stick to etched reticles....not just with a conquest scope....but with most all my own scope purchases. Conquest don't compare to a kahles I'm sure....never said otherwise.....but, I don't care for any scope models with a color changing reticle. Not trying to change anybodies view or opinion on this, but its also no use trying to change mine either. Its an etched thing :>) I can't get the emoticons to work so you have to go by my smiley faces that I'm not the slightest bit excited or upset.....just stating my preference.

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Remember we are only talking about two reticles (Plex & 4a)  in one model line (KX)  that have a mechanical reticle. If you read the Kahles website, all other reticles in the KX line and everything in the other model lines are etched for whatever that's worth. BTW, I have my eye out for a good deal on a NIB Kahles CL with a 4a reticle.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abailey54 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/04/2008 at 21:00
Get a Kahles CL. Its better than the KX and it has the etched reticles.
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