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    Posted: November/07/2007 at 18:09

I have a 700 BDL in .223 that has an absolute horrible trigger.  I didn't really know it until I got a few of the Savage Accu-Triggers!  I will have a smith do the work..... so do I want to go with an all new trigger or is the current one a good candidate for adjusting?

 

My local competitor have Timley's and maybe one other.  Let me know what you all think.

 

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Tip69,

First, when you say the trigger is horrible, do you object most to the pull weight, creep, overtravel, or all the above?  Any or all of those things are fully adjustable on the Remington trigger, but if you want a pull weight lower than about 2.5 lbs, you will need to either get a smith to work on it, or buy an aftermarket trigger.  The Timney triggers are good, adjustable to a crisp 1.5 - 2 lbs or so safely.  It is a good option for an excellent hunting trigger.  The Rifle Basix triggers in my opinion are a little better than Timney.  Like the Timney, their hunting model is adjustable down to about 1.5 lbs min. pull weight, which for general hunting is bordering on too light.  However, they also have 3 other models, so if your .223 is a precision varmint rifle, they have a varmint model adjustable down to 8 oz. pull weight.  They also have a competition model adjustable down to 2 oz.

 

In my opinion, the absolute best aftermarket trigger for the Remington 700 is the Jewell.  It is extremely well designed and made, adjustable down to about 1.5 oz in the competition model, but in hunting configuration, you can adjust it from 1/2 lb. to 3.5 lb. pull.  You can adjust the Jewell to have no perceptible creep or overtravel.

 

Good luck on your deer hunting!

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Adjust the trigger you have yourself.

Very easy to do and Rem triggers are good, but just need some TLC to sweeten them up.

I got my Rem factory trigger down to a CLEAN 2 1/4 lb pull. People that shoot my rifle think the triggers aftermarket.

 

Nothing wrong with Ted's advise about the aftermarket triggers, but after adjusting your Rem trigger you may be happy enough. I was.

I think a good pull for a big game rig is around 3-3.5 lbs.

 

Several places online show you how to do it.

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Yes, the Remington trigger is actually pretty good.  2.5 lbs. is plenty light enough for most hunting duty.  The fact the rifle is in .223, I thought there was a chance that perhaps it could be a precision varmint rifle, in which case, you might want the trigger to safely break at a weight below the factory trigger's minimum safe limits.
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I have to throw this out, though.  If you aren't experienced with trigger function, PLEASE be sure you thoroughly understand how the trigger works, the safety ramifications of trigger work in general, and the consequences of getting it wrong.  After making adjustments, always thoroughly test the trigger with an unloaded rifle to try to make the trigger slam fire before considering it "safe."  If in doubt, PLEASE err on the side of safety and either don't set it too borderline light, don't mess with sear engagement if creep isn't objectionable, or have a gunsmith do it for you.  It certainly isn't hard, but the consequences of setting it to an unsafe condition is very grave.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

I have to throw this out, though.  If you aren't experienced with trigger function, PLEASE be sure you thoroughly understand how the trigger works, the safety ramifications of trigger work in general, and the consequences of getting it wrong.  After making adjustments, always thoroughly test the trigger with an unloaded rifle to try to make the trigger slam fire before considering it "safe."  If in doubt, PLEASE err on the side of safety and either don't set it too borderline light, don't mess with sear engagement if creep isn't objectionable, or have a gunsmith do it for you.  It certainly isn't hard, but the consequences of setting it to an unsafe condition is very grave.

I agree with Ted on this 100%.  Trigger adjusment is not that difficult, once you understand the trigger mechanism, but when it comes to adjustment of sear engagement a little goes a long way and testing like Ted says is a must.  And if you are inexperienced, do not get out the Arkansas stone for trimming, that should definately be left up to a gunsmith.

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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

I have to throw this out, though.  If you aren't experienced with trigger function, PLEASE be sure you thoroughly understand how the trigger works, the safety ramifications of trigger work in general, and the consequences of getting it wrong.  After making adjustments, always thoroughly test the trigger with an unloaded rifle to try to make the trigger slam fire before considering it "safe."  If in doubt, PLEASE err on the side of safety and either don't set it too borderline light, don't mess with sear engagement if creep isn't objectionable, or have a gunsmith do it for you.  It certainly isn't hard, but the consequences of setting it to an unsafe condition is very grave.

I agree with Ted on this 100%.  Trigger adjusment is not that difficult, once you understand the trigger mechanism, but when it comes to adjustment of sear engagement a little goes a long way and testing like Ted says is a must.  And if you are inexperienced, do not get out the Arkansas stone for trimming, that should definately be left up to a gunsmith.

 

I agree with letting someone else do the work.We do them for 75 buck's and will not go under 3pounds.I have seen way to many people atempt and have pin drop when the bolt closes. but rem trigger can be made very nice.

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I'm not sure what all I would want changed....... it might just be the weight.  Thanks for all the advice. I will take to a smith and get it lowered and go from there.  I was comparing to the Savage Accu trigger....... and that's where the "horrible" comment came from.

 

It's good to know that I don't have to buy a new one...... although I hope I don't have to pay $75!

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Make sure you get an estimate up front, but be specific on what you would like adjusted, meaning the weight of pull, creep, overtravel, etc..
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Good idea..... I think I'll make a list before I go....... that should help with any surprises!

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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

I have to throw this out, though.  If you aren't experienced with trigger function, PLEASE be sure you thoroughly understand how the trigger works, the safety ramifications of trigger work in general, and the consequences of getting it wrong.  After making adjustments, always thoroughly test the trigger with an unloaded rifle to try to make the trigger slam fire before considering it "safe."  If in doubt, PLEASE err on the side of safety and either don't set it too borderline light, don't mess with sear engagement if creep isn't objectionable, or have a gunsmith do it for you.  It certainly isn't hard, but the consequences of setting it to an unsafe condition is very grave.

 

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Good stuff, Ted.

 

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Talked to a smith today...... said he's worked on lots of 700 triggers......... can clean it all up for $35.00.  Will be dropping it off next week!

 

I asked him about the BAR's too........ they have a lot of creep and too heavy.  He said not much can be done with them because they are "Shotgun" triggers......... Did any of you guys know that?........ but he would give it a try.

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Picked up my .223 yesterday and went to the range this morning...... The trigger is awesome!  I can't believe how much difference there is in 3 lbs!  It was set at 6.5 lbs at the factory and the smith got it down to 3.5.  I wouldn't have guessed it was that heavy....felt like I barely touched it and it went off.  Shot the best group of my life.  I'll try to post a pic soon.
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nice group!  Did you shoot handloads or factory rounds?  just curious.
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Nice stuff, glad you got the trigger cleaned up. I have recently fitted a Timney, and for pull weight they are not adjustable below 2-2,5lbs.  I also had a problem with the Timney safety. So you probably got the best deal by just cleaning the Remington up.
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Good shootin, Tipster!!
 
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hmm maybe i should get my 788 and my 673 triggers done
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

hmm maybe i should get my 788 and my 673 triggers done
 
If you ever manage to come down for some hog hunting with me as we talked about, bring those rifles with you and I'll tune 'em up.
 
Good shooting, Tip69!  Glad to hear you got your trigger set to your liking.  A good trigger is very helpful, if not essential to realizing your rifle's full accuracy potential.  It doesn't make the rifle more accurate, but it makes you capable of more consistent shooting, which translates into greater realized accuracy. 


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Thanks guys.  I forgot to post the specifics..... I was shooting factory loads and I'm a little embarrassed to say I'm not sure what they were.  I know they were of the cheaper 
variety.   Imagine what that rifle might do with hand loads! 
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