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    Posted: January/03/2022 at 04:54
Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

Quality glass trumps Magnification every day of the week. This is true in every type of Optic.

I think there is a lot of truth in this.
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Quality glass trumps Magnification every day of the week. This is true in every type of Optic.
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I only paid 120 and it is no name brand not sure if it is accurate because when I compare it to my 22x60 binoculars there's only a very slight differance as far as range and when I look at Saturn I can't see any rings just a small white dot, it is focused and on a tripod, what could be the problem? Quality maybe?
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30x to 280x X 160mm. Okay. Those are a pair of monster binos! 
with a serious tri-pod you should be able to see all kinds of things in the Heavens.
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Originally posted by Kevos Kevos wrote:

Sorry but I meant to say says not days for some reason this forum doesn't let me edit my post



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says 30x-280x160 it zooms from 30 to 280 
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Sorry but I meant to say says not days for some reason this forum doesn't let me edit my post
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it actually days 30-x280x160 they are zoom and very big long binoculars 
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Maybe it is me. You wrote you have a "280 x 160" binocular.  I am unfamiliar with that designation. I am sure you can see how binoculars are designated, for example, 8 x 42. 
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I have a 280x160 binocular and can't see Saturn anything like your picture here  can only see a white dot, but then again I only paid 120 bucks for a no name brand.  I'm new to this what could be my problem? Thanks
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For a decent view, it will take an 80mm objective lens, a substantial tripod, and a clear night to resolve the rings. There are a couple of "Giant" binos being offered with prices ranging from under $200 to well over $1000.  I bought a short tube 80mm refractor that does a decent job and is considerably cheaper. 
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To try to see them with those binos would required them to be tripod mounted and your eyes to be full dark adapted. Even then the rings would probably only appear as bumps on the planets side and only if they are not edge on as Bill said. Most low- mid binos would not have the resolution required to see any detail.
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A semi-decent* 8x42 should allow one to see the 4 moons of Jupiter AND the rings of Saturn. I know a 7x50 will. However, if the SEEING** is not good, or the rings are edge on, even a fine—HUGE, earth-based—telescope won’t work.

* Semi-decent is just as descriptive and quantifiable as: “good,” “decent,” “fine,” “affordable,” “durable,” “HD,” “contrasty,” “sharp,” “clear,” “vintage,” or a dozen other meaningless terminologies. Our physiological realities must be taken into consideration and are different from person to person.

** Seeing has an almost quantifiable meaning, although it, too, has variables.

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Edited by mike650 - December/27/2020 at 19:54
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So far I only view visually but I’m going to try an adapter that will allow mounting my cell hone camera over the eyepiece. Not sure how that will work out but not a big investment.
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That is a good photo Dan, wish I could claim it. It is a photo from one of my astronomy websites that accurately portrays what I view through my setup as mentioned. I have tried to bump up the mag but unless the seeing is excellent it works against you. Still, pretty happy with that. Jupiter and the four Galilean moons are a beautiful sight as well.
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Excellent photo, Craig.  

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I was using an 80mm spotting scope on tripod... with 20-60 eye piece... to see Mars in past, maybe that would work. 👍


Edited by mike650 - December/27/2020 at 19:53
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Excellent photo, Craig.  
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