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RifleDude
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Hey Sambar, I have a very fine 8 track tape player for sale I'll make you a helluva deal on. Until today, I was having a devil of a time finding a buyer, as it seems the avant garde audiophile favors the notoriously dodgy digital music media, but I can tell you're a discriminating consumer with a keen appreciation for state of the art gear.
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Ted
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Peddler
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Rancid Coolaid
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The USMC announced on Monday they have gone to a Nightforce scope for their new 300WM platform, I'm sure by Thursday they will have seen the obvious error of their ways and gone to this: |
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koshkin
MODERATOR Dark Lord of Optics Joined: June/15/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13181 |
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Sambarman, for my dayjob, I am building an optical system that is roughly the size of a minivan and weighing in at several thousand pounds. It is ruggedized to survive significant shock (train crash type stuff) and still remain in one piece and aligned. Ruggedizing heavy things is quite doable... ILya
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Rancid Coolaid
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As an aside, I do have an Elcan DR and love it, great optic. They have external adjustments and I have, thus far, had no issues with them. And I don't baby my gear.
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sambarman338
Optics GrassHopper Joined: February/01/2012 Location: Melbourne, Aust Status: Offline Points: 47 |
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Thanks guys. Your analogy with audio stuff is not without a precedent of my own, RifleDude, but I think each subject needs to be looked at on its merits. As I wrote elsewhere (I'm waiting for JGRaider to tell us where), I once heard a radio interview with the man behind Living Stereo, after the renewed interest in vinyl began. The presenter asked him if he also thought Living Stereo gave better sound than CDs, to which he answered: "You've got to be kidding!" I do think, however, that Beta video-tapes were better than the reverse-engineered whoppers that followed and beat them commercially. Also, for dangerous-game hunting, control-round-feed/controlled-extraction actions like the 98 Mauser and pre-64 Winchester 70 may be safer than the push-feed rifles that largely supplanted them. I certainly don't think waffle-iron chequering was a great move forward, though the modern machine-cut stuff is often not bad. Sorry, I'm too stupid to remember how to get from this post back to catch the name of the next well-wisher, but thank you for your reasoned contribution. Thanks again, Rancid Coolaid. Can you tell me whether Unertl ever did make any image-movement scopes? If not, I'm impressed with the length of time they managed to keep the custom of the US military, up to four or five decades after the cataracts were removed from the eyes of sensible shooters. I'm glad to hear Nightforce has got that new contract. As touched on earlier, I'm also impressed by such optical success from someone I hear is an Adelaide fang farrier. |
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Rancid Coolaid
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They did. They had the USMC day scope contract when I was in, awesome scope for early 90s.
By today’s standards, it is serviceable, but not worth what you’d pay to get one. This is another great example of something having value much more for perceived rather than tangible reasons. If you have $10,000 to spend on one, get it and see what I mean. I think my part in this thread is done - maybe more than done. Carry on. |
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Kickboxer
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I LOVE my Hensoldt 6-24x72... but find it limited. There are some limits due to being able to related the centerline of the scope to the centerline of the bore, it is HEAVY, for some reason it is limited in adjustability. I've solved the final issue with an IVEY mount, but now it is heavier. I can still shoot it freehand, but have much less time to stay on target. However, with a 60x scope, I would probably like a 72mm objective. The 56mm objective is OK with me, but at low light it will be limiting. Exit pupil is not a "deciding factor" for me, but it is a factor. I seldom go with anything that has an exit pupil below 1.0... which this scope would have. However, March has been, for my eyes, overall good enough that this is not an eliminating factor.
I like the idea idea of this scope, I hope to get one in hand soon. If it sucks, I'll let you know.
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sambarman338
Optics GrassHopper Joined: February/01/2012 Location: Melbourne, Aust Status: Offline Points: 47 |
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Thanks Rancid, I guess that kind of does it then, though I'm tempted to say, like the Black Knight ye wot of: "We'll call it a draw." As an Aussie, I'm happy to hear you have such a high opinion of Nightforce. Perhaps it is like the superiority of the old Mannlicher Schoenauer sporters over those from Mauser, a victory of fine materials and manufacturing precision over design. If they ever decide to make a small, straight 2.5x or 1-3 variable with a #1 reticle or #4 with the bars almost touching, and a good, stout third screw at 7.30, I'll buy one if there's not too much tunnel vision. I don't actually need such a thing as I've got plenty to go on with, but I'd get another big-bore just to justify it. Cheers
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