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xtreme_jeremy
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I am looking at getting a scope for my savage 110 in 308 what do you think is better the Nikon tactical 4-16x50 or the IOR 3-18x50 Tactical 35mm or even the 6-24.
I will just be using this rifle for deer hunting I think my longist shot is going to be around 50 yards..... Just kidding I am going to be using this rifle for shooting 300 to 1,000 yards.
Is the glass a lot better in the IOR or is it about the same? The MP8 retical looks interesting does it work a lot better then normal mildots or is it just a personal thing?
Thanks for your help! Jeremy |
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ceylonc
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I own an IOR Tactical 35mm 6x24 50mm and have a friend who has a Nikon Tactical 4x16 50mm. I really like the Nikon model and it's a good scope for the price. From what I remember there isn't a huge range of adjustment for that scope & intended application(s). Many in tactical shooting circles feel this is it's Achilles heel, so to speak. With this being said, I believe that the IOR glass is superior to that of the Nikon Tactical. I also like the MP8 reticle better than the standard mil-dot used in the Nikon. Just my opinion in both glass quality & reticle preference. I mean this honestly when I say that (again, MY opinion) there is only one "tactical" scope in the world better than the IOR 35mm for under $1,500. That is the Nightforce NXS & it's only better by the tiniest of margins (clarity in the NXS is amazing & the reliability is proven). I would say that the IOR is worth every penny and is certainly "better" than the Nikon Tactical. However, the Nikon is no sloutch & has served many a shooter well on the range. |
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xtreme_jeremy
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Thanks for your advice! Anyone else have any personal experence with the IOR 35mm scopes?
I know this is a personal question but what do you guys think would be a better choice the 3-18 or the 6-24? the only reason I am considering the 24 is becasue I hear that the mils are set for 10x on both models so with the 6-24 I could put it on 20x and have a huge advantage for ranging. and with the 18 power one I could only use it on 10x
Oh one other reason for the 24x would be for target shooting at 100 yards.
I know that 24x is more scope then I need for most stuff but then again is it better to have 3x or 6x as the minimum? Will I really need 3x? let me know what you guys think.
Thanks again for all your help here on optics talk!
Jeremy |
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koshkin
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I have 2-12x32 35mm IOR and I am very happy with it.
IOR glas is, IMO, better than Nikon Tactical. Personally, I think 3-18x is more versatile, but if this is going to be strictly for target shooting, then there is no real disadvantage with going with 6-24x. As for the magnification difference keep in mind that there is a 100% difference between 6x and 3x while only a 33% difference between 18x and 24x. ILya |
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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I'd say the IOR 3-18 would be the beter choice. the Nikon doesnt have very much internal adjustment. A Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14 has 100MOA of internal adjustment use that as your measuring stick.
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Thanks for the info. I think if I remember right the load I am using takes 48to 49 moa to get to 1,000 yards so as long as I still have lets say 50 moa after zeroing the rifle then I am good.
I dont plan to shoot past 1,000 years ever and if I change my mind I can just use the retical for extra elevation.
the range that I shoot at has a 550 yeard target but thats as far as I can shoot around here except for where I go hunting... out there I could shoot as far as I feel like.
I have been talking to Koshkin about going with the 6-24 just because I would be able to range on 10x and 20x with the 3-18 I could only range on 10x and when it gets far out it is really hard for me to accuratly range on 10x
I also believe that it would help a lot because on 20x I would have 1/4th mil marks so going down to 1/8th a mil would be really easy.
do you guys think it would be worth it to sacrfice the low end magnifaction of the 3-18 for the extra ranging of the 6-24? (weight is not an issue for me)
Thanks so much for all your help! Jeremy |
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ceylonc
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I have to recommend the 6x24 as that's what I have and I don't miss the lack of sub 6x magnification. That's just me for my uses. Bottom line is you're getting an amazing scope either way... |
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Anthony
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IOR is by far better than the nikon, I would consider the nikon a good deal if it was about 100$ cheaper
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My scopes are Leu Mk4 8.5-25x50 , Leu Mk4 10x40 M3, SS20x, SS10x, VXIII 4.5-14x50 I find that I am drawn to the higher powers but in practical use in the field I think the 4.5-14x50 or in your case 3-18 is really the right choice. Is 6x so powerful that it is hard to work with no and I'll bet it is a whole lot easier than my 8.5 but then I figured that if I was working with a fixed 10x the 8.5 is less power than that and it could be done. So it is a choice you have to make but if I was buying it I would go 3-18. The chance that you will need to shoot something under 100 yards is much higher than the chance that you will need to shoot something over 600 yds.
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