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Whale
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Posted: November/28/2015 at 07:27 |
Has anyone had second thoughts about purchasing from the sample list? Especially a higher end scope? I once purchased a demo from a competitor, and the scope just came in a box. No cover or paperwork, I mean nothing. I will not even get into the condition of the scope. I was looking at the Zeiss Victory HT instead of purchasing a new Kahles KXi. Thanks for your input.
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RifleDude
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I've bought MOST of my higher end scopes off the Sample List. Most were demo optics that looked brand new but just couldn't be sold as new because they had been taken out of the box, some never even mounted before. If you look at the condition designation in the descriptions, you'll notice "Demo-A, Demo-B, and Demo-C." "A" is like new condition, "B" may have very faint ring marks or other minor cosmetic flaws, and "C" will have noticeable ring marks, scratches,etc. In my experience buying a Demo A item is just like buying a new item in every way except without the plastic shrink wrap outside the box. Almost all of the Demo B items I've bought would also pass for new, but you might notice very faint ring marks if you look VERY closely. I've not bought any Demo C items, so can't comment there, but I would have no hesitation in doing so if I found something I wanted at the right price.
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I too have purchased several scopes off the Sample list including a KXI and a Z6i. Both were like brand new. If you see something on the sample list call them and they will pull the item and give you a very accurate description. Always check into the warranty on these items.
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Agreed, a "B" Schmidt Bender I got had faint ring marks and looked unused otherwise.
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Great experiences for me too. No worries.
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I got 3 refurbed Nikon's from it. No problems with them. There was a shipping mix up which SWFA fixed as soon as they found out. I would buy with confidence from it again.
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+4. A couple of the Demo B items I purchased could have been rated Demo A and had no evidence of ever having been mounted or used. The Demo A item was clearly new without the shrink wrap on the box.
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I have several scopes from the sample list… all "higher end". No problems whatsoever. May or may not come with the manual… depends on how it was when SWFA took it in. If you have concerns, ASK before purchasing. However, quality, for me, has been superior. I've not been able to find why the ones I have were rated DEMO B… no marks, no flaws, perfect operation.
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I purchased a Swarovski, it looked LNIB and had everything: box, wipes, manual and lens covers. If you are hesitant then call and ask about what's there.
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Don't buy high end optics from the Sample list, let the rest of us "take it for the team" in making these type of purchases.
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Ive had great luck with samplelist scopes. Out of 5 or 6 I sent 1 back and had no problem with exchanging for a different scope. Just dont mount it if you are not sure you like it when you look at it in person.
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I have several high end scopes from the sample list, have sent a few to the sample list as well.
Most of the ones I bought were demos, looked brand new, everything in the original box. |
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Whale
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Purchased the Zeiss Victory HT. Thanks |
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In my experience (if you need more input) is that SWFA won't mark as they should..... a lot of the scopes that are demo A could be sold as NIB and nobody would ever know. Most of the demo B's could be called Demo A's too. They don't take in junk so they rarely have stuff that is really really worn out. IF they do its clearly noted.
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Maybe a bit late here, but I had a bad experience from the sample list...
Bought 2 Meopro scopes and one was damaged on the insides. Like you could see a screw or something sticking in front of the mirror inside. Called SWFA and was told there was no exchange and no return for sample list items when there are problems like this. It was listed as Demo C, aka not perfect, so you get what you get. They told me to take it up with Meopta customer service. Luckily Meopta customer service fixed it at no charge and got it back to me fairly quickly. I did have to return pay shipping, but it's better than having a busted scope. Always had good experience with SWFA, so I was really shocked at the response I got. I could understand if I was complaining about scratches or outside appearance, but this was internal and impaired the function of the scope. |
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