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Pirate Joe
Optics GrassHopper Joined: November/25/2015 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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Thanks Guys !!! It's never as much fun unless ya feel like you getting away with something :)
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Chris Farris II
TEAM SWFA - Admin MODERATOR Joined: August/13/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3196 |
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The 10x HD is out of stock and that is why it was left out of the sale this year. The 5-20 Illuminated is not on the in store ad, but it will be on sale at 25% off and on the email blast as will the non illuminated model.
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One day your life will flash before your eyes; Make sure it's worth watching.
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Chrispy1023
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Woo Hoo
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Joker
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Damn. I'm afraid I'm going to be spending a LOT more than I'd planned....
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Chris Farris
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Remember how big Black Friday deals used to be before all the big retailers started putting Christmas stuff our before Halloween and started running "Black Friday" sales the entire month of November? It used to be really something special and kept secret until Friday. We try to keep it secret and mail a printed ad locally for the retail store that we try and have hit today but its hard to forecast what the USPS is going to do. The main e-mail announcement will go at 12:01 am Friday. In years past the response has been way higher than our predictions and every year we adjust based on the previous. We hope that our servers don't start smoking and that our inventory holds up. Order early and order often! The store ads that mailed are a little different than the nation wide e-mail deals as some things sell better in the store (YETI Coolers) and some things sell better online (SS). The link to the ad from last year was, http://www.swfa.com/BlackFriday2014/ Just saying. |
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SVT_Tactical
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Been playing with that all day went live recently
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"Most folks are about as happy as they make their minds up to be" - Abraham Lincoln
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burfurd
Optics GrassHopper Joined: April/04/2015 Location: Montana Status: Offline Points: 34 |
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For the good folks at SWFA.... could you briefly list the differences between the new SS 10x42 and the 'old' or current 10x42? I read that the MOA reticle may be the big difference. Thank you.
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Skylar McMahon
Optics Jedi Knight Capt. BlowHard Joined: April/05/2011 Location: TEXAS Status: Offline Points: 6082 |
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Burford, welcome to Optics Talk. The new SS10X42MOA has one difference compared to the old one. The reticle. The reticle in the new one subtends in minute of angle. Each hash mark represents 1 MOA, then at 10 MOA you have Quadrilaterals for faster reference. The previous model subtended in Mils. With its traditional baseball style mil-dot reticle, from the center of one dot to the next dot represents 1 Miilradian. They are differing angular measurements. The new one has turrets that match the reticle. The older version, you would need to determine how many MOA there are between the dots, in order to make corrections if you missed and looking to correct with a follow up shot. The benefit to the new one, because of its First Focal Plane reticle is actually better explained by Christopher's illustration;
This helps to simply things when the turret adjustments match the reticle. I.E., Mil-Dot reticle, have Miilradian adjustments and vice versa for MOA adjustments. |
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burfurd
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Thank you very much Chris. That makes it 'easier' to understand... This is Not second nature for me so your reply really helps.
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burfurd
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PS--You mention 'First Focal Plane'. If we are talking about a fixed power like your 10x scopes, there is no such thing as a First or Second focal plane issue, is there?? Sorry, I get confused easily.
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Skylar McMahon
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The reticles in the fixed power are positioned for the magnification that is used. This way the reticle is relative to the target. Same principle.
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Iowa Fox
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Skylar, Are you planning on bringing the new reticle out in your 12X fixed. I really need the extra 2X but hate to miss out on a good sale.
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koshkin
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Jon A
Optics Journeyman Joined: March/14/2008 Location: Everett, WA Status: Offline Points: 670 |
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As always ILya, spot on in your assessments. Thanks.
For those who would like to see some live reticle pics, here are some. As always, don't try and judge the glass quality, etc, as it's more a measure of my photography skills at the moment (lousy) than anything else. The light was fading fast making things more difficult as well. But these should help give people an idea what they look like in the flesh. 10X MOA-Quad: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/10XMOAQuad.jpg On a 12" Gong at 200 yds: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/10XMOAQuad200.jpg On a 24"X18" Gong at 500 yds: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/10XMOAQuad500.jpg An 8" Gong at 600 yds: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/10XMOAQuad600.jpg |
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Jon A
Optics Journeyman Joined: March/14/2008 Location: Everett, WA Status: Offline Points: 670 |
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My pictures were particularly bad with the 3-15 Mil-Quad Dot. I think the ocular focus was off a bit as all the pictures seemed to either have a sharp reticle or sharp target, not both at the same time. Anyway just focus on the reticle, the glass is the same as the DM obviously.....
3-15X42 SFP Mil-Quad Dot: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/3-15SFPDot.jpg On a 12" Gong at 200 yds: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/3-15SFPDot200.jpg On a 24"X18" Gong at 500 yds: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/3-15SFPDot500.jpg An 8" Gong at 600 yds: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/3-15SFPDot600.jpg |
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RifleDude
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Nice additions to the SS family!
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Ted
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RifleDude
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Welcome to OT, Pirate! I have a hunch I know you, sir!
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Ted
Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle. |
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Jon A
Optics Journeyman Joined: March/14/2008 Location: Everett, WA Status: Offline Points: 670 |
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3-15X42 SFP Mil-Quad DM:
Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/3-15SFPMilQuadDM.jpg On a 12" Gong at 200 yds: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/3-15SFPMilQuadDM200.jpg On a 24"X18" Gong at 500 yds: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/3-15SFPMilQuadDM500.jpg An 8" Gong at 600 yds: Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/3-15SFPMilQuadDM600.jpg Here's an example of the ranging lines in use. The Circle (what's left of it) on this gong is 9": Larger Version: http://www.jonaadland.com/Hunting/SuperSniper/2015Reticles/3-15SFPMilQuadDM500Range.jpg If my hand was a bit steadier, you would see the circle covering 1/2 of the 500 yd line. Alternatively, knowing the target was 9" one could find the line that fits and divide the range by two. In this case the 1000 yd line did but I didn't get a decent pic of that. Anyway, hopefully that helps people see what the reticles are like a bit better. |
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637mase
Optics Apprentice Joined: November/20/2013 Location: Tennessee Status: Offline Points: 64 |
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Thanks Jon A and ILya for putting together two great presentations of the 3-15 SFP scopes. I'm now sure that my purchase will be on point. You are much appreciated - thanks again.
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Iowa Fox
Optics GrassHopper Joined: July/01/2015 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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My 10X with the new MOA/MOA I ordered on the Black Friday sale arrive today. The mailman was so late it was dark when he got here so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to look thru the scope outside. My first SWFA.
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