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    Posted: October/06/2015 at 13:52
I was sighting in my scope the other day, and used a lot of $ammo to get nowhere. What my  big problem is, what way to twist windage and elevation.

If my shot is high, do I turn the clicker clockwise or counter-clockwise to bring the shots  down?

If my point of impact is is to the left, do I turn the clicker clockwise or counter-clockwise to bring it more to the right?

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Your adjustments should say right or left on them.  Often they just say right and up with an arrow.

If you want your POI to move right, then you move the adjustment to the right that way the arrow is pointing.  Same with up and down.  If you want to go up, turn the adjustment in the up direction.


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Generally, the direction indicated on the turret corresponds to point of impact change.  If the elevation turret says clockwise for up, that means the round impact will move up proportional to the number of clicks of the turret when it is spun clockwise.  Same with windage.

Don't look through the scope as you make the adjustment, you'll just confuse yourself more - to move the point of impact up, you move the horizontal down, that screws up lots of people.

Whether clockwise or counter-clock, that depends on the make and model of scope.  The turrets should say something about point of impact.  Just remember it is referencing point of impact: "up" moves the strike up, "right" moves the strike right.  It DOES NOT mean the cross-hairs move "up" or "right."
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Just some other general information that may help. It may not pertain to your scope, but it gives you a starting point.
If you are sighting in on a target at 100yds it makes everything easier.
With most scopes 1 click of the adjustments equals about 1/4 of an inch at 100yds.
When sighting in, try shooting a 3 to 5 shot group. If the center of your group is 2 inches high and 1 and 1/2 inch to the left of where you are aiming at 100yds, you need to come down 8 clicks and come right 6 clicks. Then shoot another group to confirm your sight in.
If you can't get a group, then you need to make sure your scope ring screws and mount screws are tight.
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Usually when people have problems like that, it is because the scope adjustments are not accurate. There is a simple way to zero without using up ammo and depending on inaccurate turrets. You shoot a group, then lock the rifle down solidly, as in a vice, with the cross hairs on the point of aim. Then you look through the scope, without moving the rifle, while adjusting the crosshairs to the center of the group. This gets you very close to zeroed with one group fired.

It is difficult to hold the rifle still enough to get it exactly zeroed. Also, the turrets may settle a little moving the point of impact. I use the method often with my target scope. I move that scope around between rifles and use the method to get it near enough point of aim for measuring groups. I also use the method to help others at the range when it gets close to deer season.
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Originally posted by rogervan rogervan wrote:

I was sighting in my scope the other day, and used a lot of $ammo to get nowhere. What my  big problem is, what way to twist windage and elevation.

If my shot is high, do I turn the clicker clockwise or counter-clockwise to bring the shots  down?

If my point of impact is is to the left, do I turn the clicker clockwise or counter-clockwise to bring it more to the right?

THX much,

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Thanks for the info guys. I thought the windage and elevation-setting turret twisting directions were universal. I don't have the rifle with me right now, I left it in the cabin. But I assure you I'm mighty curious about what the scope says on it. Right now all I can remember are curved arrows on the clickers.

I'll let you know what I find out.

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What scope are you working with?
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I was thinking the same thing Mil. What scope are we discussing? Many years ago my dad was sighting in a cheaper scope and was having trouble. I took the rifle and shot a few times to find out where I needed to adjust. I adjusted the windage first and then bumped with my palm up and down the entire length of the scope several times and squeezed the trigger again. Next I adjusted the elevation and bumped the scope some more. My dad got pissed and told me I'd better stop beating on his scope because I was going to damage it. I replied, "If you'd stop buying cheap scopes I wouldn't have to bump it to ensure the adjustments are accurate". Needless to say I eventually got him on the bullseye and when he bumped his rifle around later in the season he didn't lose point of impact. Now a days he's moving up in the world and has a Sightron Big Sky where the adjustment are true and the glass is pretty good.
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Let me add in a suggestion.   Most scopes are 1/4moa per click that means 1/4 inch movement at 100 yds so even with sandbags if your a tad unsteady you might not be able to tell what one or two clicks do but if you try  12 clicks you should see about a 3 inch movement in point of impact at 100 yds but keep in mind that at 50 yds that 12 clicks is 1 1/2 inch movement and at 200  yds that same 12 clicks is 6 inches of movement.    A rock solid rest lots of trigger control lots of breathing control is what it takes to have a true shot.

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