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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alan Robertson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2015 at 18:23
Pardon 338LM, but answering with a comparison of scopes from different mfg's, you've essentially changed the subject, making a logical fallacy. Different design parameters come into play. Compare the scopes as mentioned and see what you find.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 338LM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2015 at 19:17
Thanks Alan...
Now, where can I find a IOR dealer in SoCal?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kickboxer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2015 at 19:36
Quoted from Leupold:
"Something else to remember is that contrary to common belief, a larger objective lens does not increase the field of view of a riflescope. It only increases the amount of light entering the scope, and, in the case of scopes using slightly less capable components, it will increase the “sweet spot” at the optical center of the lens, making images appear sharper and more crisp in the center of the field of view."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alan Robertson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2015 at 20:17
Originally posted by 338LM 338LM wrote:

Thanks Alan...
Now, where can I find a IOR dealer in SoCal?

http://www.valdada.com/contact-us/

You won't really need to contact them, unless you just need to see for yourself. KB's answer should suffice... objective lens diameter is not part of the equation for determining field of view.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote supertool73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2015 at 20:26
You dont need to compare the scopes. Just go to valdada.com and look at the specs. Or in that case any other manufacturer that has two of the exact same scopes with the only diff being objective size. But even then we don't know exactly whats going on on the inside of the scope. Those internal parts and how they are designed play a huge role in FOV. And i am sure there are other factors as well, scope length i beleive plays a role.

If Rifledude or Koshkin chime in i am sure they can tell us exactly how FOV is determined.
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I've got an interesting diversion from the topic.....I have seen two 4X scopes side by side where one image was LARGER than the other!!!    Shocked




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 338LM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2015 at 20:48
Thx again Alan, I just wanted to see it and compare them with my own eyes.
I am not a hunter, but i do like to shoot steel and learn about shooting.

Because I am in California, that does not mean I am a Hillary Clinton supporter or Donald Trump supporter.

I am sorry supertool73
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alan Robertson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2015 at 20:52
Originally posted by Son of Ed Son of Ed wrote:

I've got an interesting diversion from the topic.....I have seen two 4X scopes side by side where one image was LARGER than the other!!!    Shocked




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Well, you did say nevermind, but still that statement is true for just about all of my scopes that have a 4X.
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Originally posted by 338LM 338LM wrote:

Thx again Alan, I just wanted to see it and compare them with my own eyes.
I am not a hunter, but i do like to shoot steel and learn about shooting.

Because I am in California, that does not mean I am a Hillary Clinton supporter or Donald Trump supporter.

I am sorry supertool73
Ilya Koshkin, aka the Dark Lord of Optics, also lives in California. He is our resident expert on optical properties, being an optical physicist, or he regularly takes a physic, or something like that.
Now, while his name might sound like he could be a Commie, I assure you, he is not. On the other hand, Hillary Clinton's name sounds like she might not be a Commie...
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Regarding FOV, I believe a review of focal length is in order. But, I am on my phone as always anymore.....easily googled
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote supertool73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2015 at 22:11
No need to be sorry. I once thought the same thing til i was educated otherwise on this forum. Lots of bery smart dudes on this forum we can learn from
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/10/2015 at 22:22
I know this thread is a little old. However, Luke Duke did you decide on a scope? How did they compare in low light?
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