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AftonJohnny
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Posted: July/21/2006 at 08:24 |
Scoping my Ruger #! in 45-70 for a black bear hunt this September. Most shots will be between 40-60 yards, so I'm considering Burris Eurodiamond 1-4, or the Vari XII in 1.5-5. I've had good experience with the Leupold on other rifles, but have read several favorable posts on the Burris. All suggestions and opions are welcome. Thanks!
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mwyates
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The Leupold VXIII 1.5-5X20 is the most respected scope for short-range, hard kicking rifles. It's what most custom rifle builders recommend. I had a Eurodiamond 2.5-10 and didn't like it.
You should also consider the Burris Signature Safari 1.75-5X32. I have one of these on my Marlin .45-70 and it is great. |
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koshkin
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I have not had A EuroDiamond 1-4x24 (it is pretty new), but I would pick Burris Signarue Safari 1.75-5x32 over the Leupold VX-III 1.5-5x20. Both are good scopes though.
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AftonJohnny
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Thank you both for a great reccomendation. The price seems reasonable, and the eye relief matches or exceeds Leupold's.
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christiangoof
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Honestly, Burris and Leupold are both very good scopes for rifles. And to me they are even in competition. My dad likes both of them also. We go to the rifle range and he lets me shoot his gun. I believe he has a Burris on there. And I think it is a very nice scope. I also think Leupold is very nice. I went to one store, and my dad and I looked through it.
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Always know that if the scope doesn't work well, just ask God to make it work for you. He works wonders you know.
Dorothy |
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Trinidad
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Hello Dorothy
They are both good scopes the ony problem is that Leupold has become very overpriced for what you get. Both Leupold and Burris have great construction but the optical quality in burris in superior. Leupold is a more compact scope and has a better finish in my opinion, it also looks better on a rifle but when it comes down to perfomance I feel that the Burris has the edge. Here is some examples of features vs price.
Burris Signature Select 4-16x44 AO Ballistic Mil-dot $480 Leupold VX III 4-14x40 Duplex $499
Burris XTR 4-12x50 ILR Ballistic MD $675 Leupold Mark 4 M1 3.5-10x40 ILM MD $1200
Take care Dorothy. Trinidad
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Anson
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Can you be a little more specific what you didn't like about it? Thanks. |
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It's all about the data
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mwyates
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At the time I had the Euro Diamond I had a Black Diamond and the above mentioned Signature Safari to compare. The Euro came up short against the others in every respect. It wasn't as bright or as sharp, and the difference was very noticeable.
As far as Burris SS vs. VX III 1.5-5, there's a reason that gunbuilders use the Leupold on all their hard kickers, and that is that they've never had one fail. The Burris may be as good, but it hasn't proven itself yet. There was a very interesting article a few years ago in one of the mags (Shooting TImes?) about the scopes that custom gun makers use. All had had several failures on hard kickers from Swaro, Zeiss, etc. and recommend only the Leupold 1.5-5.
I'll try and find the article and post the mag and date.
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koshkin
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That was an article in Rifle magazine by John Barseness. He also
ntes there that Burris and Weaver Grand Slam scopes have been very
durable in his experience. I would guess that a lot of people
request a Leupold because of its reputation and name recognition.
Burris Signature Safari was designed specifically to compete in this
market and I do not think I've ever heard of one succumbing to recoil.
As I said, both are good scopes, but I prefer Burris. ILya |
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christiangoof
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Well, I'll be more specific. I like Leupold because they are very durable, and will lasts a very long time, even during tough conditions. I like Burris because, its sites are more accurrate to me.
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christiangoof
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Oh yeah, I forgot. Burris has better eye relief then Leupold.
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Roy Finn
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Kosh, John Barsness wrote an article in Rifle magazine titled, " Tough Scopes, Fact or Fiction" (July 2004) where he cited the Elite 4200 scopes being " as tough as any scope made".
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koshkin
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Yeah, I remeber that one. My concern with Elite 4200 and Grand
Slam is that their eye relief is a bit too short for me.
Otherwise, they seem to be very durable.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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This is the best advise you have recieved. |
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Longhunter
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Good advice from everyone!
I've done a side-by-side test of the VX-III 1.5-5 vs the Signature Safari. If you are hunting in the woods, at dawn or near dark, you will appreciate the larger objective and easier, brighter view of the Signature Safari. You will give up some field, though.
For me, looking through the VX-III 1.5-5 was like looking through a soda straw, or one of the old less-than-one-inch Weaver .22 scopes. It's probably at its best in bright sunlight and open fields.
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