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RyanO20
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Posted: January/22/2015 at 15:08 |
I just finished my 18" AR build in an 'SPR' style. I put in a good trigger, and a good 1/2 MOA gauanteed barrel. I've made up my mind I'm going with a SWFA SS for the glass. But now I'm I need of some help from you all. I'll be doing mostly longer range (250-700 yards) shooting. I've considered 3 models; 3-9x42, 10x42 HD, and 3-15x42. Of these three (and maybe the 10x42M?) which would you suggest?
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supertool73
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One of the variables, makes for a much more versatile rifle
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RyanO20
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Of the two variables, which would you suggest?
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3_tens
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If you are not planning to go over 700 yds the 3-15X42 would be my pick. Less weight and extra lower end would be more valuable to me. I have the SS 5-20 on my RR Varmint and have bought the 3-15 to replace it. Much of the time in the heat around here the mirage would not allow the use of the upper end. The glass on the 5-20 is of a lot higher quality. It just depends on your needs.
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BeltFed
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The 3-9x42 doesn't have a parallax adjustment, so if fast shooting is a little more important than precise shot placement, then the 3-9 may be the way to go.
If you have the time to adjust the parallax for your long range shots, then the 3-15x42 would be my choice. I have both and like both. |
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RyanO20
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I find myself drawn to the HD glass. I've shot the classic SS 10x42, and it was a fine scope. I've also shot Luppys and Swarovski glass, and I can see (no pun intended) the value of high quality glass. I love the idea of the 5-20, but like imaginaryfrnd and others said, it's a bit much for a 5.56 gun under 700 yards. If they made a 3-15 HD, I'd be all in. Or a 3-9 with parallax, because precison is my objective. It's sounding like the 3-15 unless something awesome was/will be released at SHOT.
How is the upper end (10-15x) range on the 3-15? I've used some scopes that are essentially useless at the upper end of their range. Not that I suspect poor quality from the SS, just curious. |
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BeltFed
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I have noticed that the 3-15 gets a little darker on the upper end, but it's barely noticeable and not anything that would be a problem except in failing light.
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RyanO20
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Thanks, BeltFed. I think I've made a decision. I'm going to wait until after SHOT (you never know what new goodness may be unveiled) and then get my hands on one of these. I'll give my impressions when I can.
Anyone try the zero stop kit the guys on the hide are making for the 3-15? |
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supertool73
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I would get the 3-9x for the better glass quality. I would not worry that much about the parallax. I dare bet most of your shooting will be within 400 yards and for those longer shots, just make sure you line up behind the scope right and you will have no issues.
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jonoMT
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The 3-9 will save you a little weight. The glass is better, but the 3-15 glass has never been a detraction for shooting at those ranges. Either one will work well. The parallax adjustment on the 3-15 will allow you to focus down to 20 feet, which is nice for dry-fire practice indoors or mounting the scope.
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Reaction time is a factor...
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RyanO20
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If the 3-9 had a parallax adj. it would be no question about picking it. I guess ultimate, do I go for better glass, or the parallax?
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I have a LOVE the SS 3-9x. It will serve you well. As Ufriend stated, the 3-9x was developed to be a SPR scope.
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BeltFed
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I don't believe a 3-9 needs parallax adjustment. ILya or Rifledude may be able to explain why.
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Rancid Coolaid
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1/2 MOA guarantee on an AR barrel?
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RyanO20
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Well I'm now a little ticked off, because when I bought this Mega claimed a 1/2 MOA guarantee, but it looks like it has been upped to 1 MOA. I still have email correspondence with a tech guaranteeing 1/2 MOA that I'll pull out if it doesn't perform....
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_124/655940_Mega_Arms_556_Barrel___18_.html |
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koshkin
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I love accurate barrels as much as the next guy, but I found that once the distances open up, I am a much bigger source of error than a 1MOA barrel. YMMV.
On SS scopes, here is something of a background statement: considering what I do I have played with just about every scope out there and at any given time I have a dozen or so scopes just lounging in the safe waiting for their turn. I have six different SS scopes: -6x42 Classic (currently on my airgun) -10x42 Classic (on my 8mm Mauser) - two different 3-9x42 variables (both have been on everything, but right are on 308WIn boltguns) - 3-15x42 (currently used for load development on a super accurate 6.5x55 Tkka) - 5-20x50 (set up on my Grendel for now) If I had to choose only one of these to use on every gun mentioned above, it would be the 3-15x42. For an SPR, this would be just about the perfect scope. ILya
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MikieG
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I have ran the 10x42M out to a bit past 1000 and never felt under equipped. I feel those are THE biggest bang for the buck optics going today. Especially now that they can be had with mil based turrets.
That being said. I am planning on 2 5-20x50mm illumes this year. Whew! Just plain sexy!! |
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