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    Posted: June/15/2014 at 14:00
So I am taking the plunge and going to start doing some long range tactical shooting with my AR with a local club. It is a bushmaster predator 20" 1/8 twist. I plan on shooting 75 hornady bthp or 70 berger vld's depending on what I can get to shoot best. These shoots go out to 900 yards (which is really going to test the rifle/ammo capabilities) so I need to equip my rifle the best I can.
 
Maybe by winter I will be able to afford a top notch optic (S&B, NF, Ect) but for now I need something to learn on and hone my skills. How much scope do I need out to 900 with the 223? I was thinking a 10x SS, to start? Any other suggestions?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheaptrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/15/2014 at 15:22
Many, many shooters have used the 10x SS out to 1000 yards and beyond, successfully. I think the 10x SS would a great place to start. And maybe to "finish". Wink

If you plan on upgrading later, you can probably regain near 90% of the retail price to apply to your new scope. I would also consider the 12x SS as well. Much more magnification than the 12x and your fighting even more mirage. 

Are you shooting steel targets or what at those ranges?   
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Steel and paper targets, its my understading that the 6-900 yard shoots are all at steel.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheaptrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/15/2014 at 15:35
If shooting movers, or on the move, I'd humbly recommend the 10x SS. 

I own the 10x and previously the 12x SS. I haven't shot the distances you mention with either, nor in the "tactical" environment admittedly. But I love the 10x.   
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I am all about instant gratification so usually if I can buy something locally instead of ordering I will do it....So just got back from a local retailer. I picked up a Vortex Viper HST 4-16X44 with MRAD MIL/MIL reticle. They had these on a fathers day sale for $399. Sure hope this works out, excited to get it mounted and see how she does.
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When I was competing I used a Vortex 6.5 -20 X 44mm mil/moa and had no issues winning matches at distance.

Very clear scopes, and most importantly, very repeatable.


Good Luck!

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SWFA > Vortex. Period.

I like Vortex, but dollar for dollar you CAN NOT beat SWFA. I own a 10x on a .223 Bolt SPS 700, and I shoot steel to 800 with it. I run out of balsitics before I ran out of scope. My next scope will be the SWFA 3-15 for my AAC-SD .308. the SWFA line is way more robust than Vortex. 

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