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cbm
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Posted: April/30/2014 at 12:28 |
Cooper .30-06 Excalibur with Luepold standard rings/bases and a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44 ZRF TT. Went out last weekend and shot long range for the first time(over 300-400yrds).
I ran out of adjusment in my scope about 760-775 yrds. I was hitting about 8-12" low at 785 yrds. I was hitting pretty good though, especially off just a card table with a sandbag. I couldn't shoot at the 1000 yrd target because of my scope limitations. He had 4 targets at 100-400-785-1000.
Do you guys think, if I got a 10moa picatinny base and changed my rings out I could get close to 1000y and keep a moderate zero? Enough to hold over a little(3-5ft) at 1000y.
How much info do you need ? I was zero'd at 100 and needed 5.5moa to hit dead on at 400 and I ran out of adjustment at 17moa(hitting a little low at 785y). I will check to see if I can crank my scope down 10moa when I get home tonight, so I can keep a good zero range for hunting(100-200y). Shooting Win ballistic Silvertip 168's (.475BC), velocity ??? but definately more than the package states at 2790.
Wow, that is some fun stuff though!! I thought I missed the first couple of times at 785 because it took so long to hit.
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cheaptrick
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I'd get a 20 MOA rail.
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Kickboxer
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I don't think he has enough adjustment with that scope for a 20MOA rail...
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jonoMT
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Yep. A 20MOA rail is going to be a better bet for most scopes, esp. for a .30-06.
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Reaction time is a factor...
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Kickboxer
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20MOA won't fly with that scope...
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BeltFed
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Just off hand, I think that scope has 25 MOA of adjustment so he may be able to get away with a 20MOA base.
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Rancid Coolaid
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25 moa on a Conquest 4-14, really?
If so, a 20moa base is gonna be really, really tricky!
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Sparky
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This scope has 42.8 MOA of total elevation adjustment. If his zero at 100yds is at the mechanical center he would have 1.4 MOA left with a 20MOA base.
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cbm
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Hey guys, thanks for the help. Checked my scope and it appears I have about 28min of adjustment down/17min up. My rings are medium because Coopers will not eject shells with low rings and target turrets. So I guess a 20 moa base would work?? I have to find one too, Ken Farrell is out of the 20moa for my style but I think Cooper sells them.
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Sparky
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I would check with SWFA. They probably have what you need.
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Rancid Coolaid
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If you have 17 up, a 10MOA base will work. I don't know for sure on conquest put some scopes do not work well near the edges of their adjustment range.
I didn't run the numbers, but your 168s will be near the end of their useful range. Shooting at that distance is a challenge. You might be surprised at the differences between a 700 yard shot and a 1,000 yard shot, they are severe.
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cbm
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I know your right but man that 1000y target was just sitting there taunting me!! I got to try it !!
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Ernie Bishop
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Shooting at distance is a lot of fun, and yes those targets will taunt you
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