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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote mtank Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/06/2014 at 07:48
I have the hd5 conquest 5x25x50 on my ought6 & I have no complaints. It'll get you in trouble.
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With the rapid z800. Left that part out
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bitterroot Bulls Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/06/2014 at 08:27
mtank,

Fair warning before the mods get to you, but you shouldn't refer to another retailer when SWFA hosts this website and offers a 110% price match gaurantee.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mtank Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/06/2014 at 11:01
Oh well I've never been politically correct or a kiss ass that's why I got out of the navy after 6. I gave swfa the chance on a z3 scope but they couldn't touch my local dealers price. Instead told me to beware. I gave swaro the serial # & it was legit from a authorized dealer $80 bucks cheaper. Don't like competition step up your game.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/06/2014 at 11:41
Originally posted by mtank mtank wrote:

Oh well I've never been politically correct or a kiss ass that's why I got out of the navy after 6. I gave swfa the chance on a z3 scope but they couldn't touch my local dealers price. Instead told me to beware. I gave swaro the serial # & it was legit from a authorized dealer $80 bucks cheaper. Don't like competition step up your game.

This has nothing to do with being politically correct or kissing anyone's behind.  You are free to purchase your products from anyone you want.

However, when you signed up for the forum, you agreed to several very specific rules also available here:  http://opticstalk.com/the-ot-rules_topic5473.html

Rule #3 explicitly states: Do not advertise other retailers selling the same or similar products as SWFA, this includes posting links to other retailers for products sold by SWFA.  SWFA does not provide this forum as a vehicle to redirect customers to our competition.

You do not have to like it, but you do have to follow it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mike650 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/06/2014 at 11:45
Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by mtank mtank wrote:

Oh well I've never been politically correct or a kiss ass that's why I got out of the navy after 6. I gave swfa the chance on a z3 scope but they couldn't touch my local dealers price. Instead told me to beware. I gave swaro the serial # & it was legit from a authorized dealer $80 bucks cheaper. Don't like competition step up your game.

This has nothing to do with being politically correct or kissing anyone's behind.  You are free to purchase your products from anyone you want.

However, when you signed up for the forum, you agreed to several very specific rules also available here:  http://opticstalk.com/the-ot-rules_topic5473.html

Rule #3 explicitly states: Do not advertise other retailers selling the same or similar products as SWFA, this includes posting links to other retailers for products sold by SWFA.  SWFA does not provide this forum as a vehicle to redirect customers to our competition.

You do not have to like it, but you do have to follow it.

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Sir yes sir                     
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mtank Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/06/2014 at 12:15
I go by the best price and was pointing out that info and would hope someone would do the same. Nothing against swfa @ all as i'm in the process of making a scope order now but  I know from personal experience they won't stand up to the 110% price match as was stated earlier.  It worked out for the best though because I got a much better scope. 
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scope order with swfa that is.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RifleDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/06/2014 at 14:25
Originally posted by mtank mtank wrote:

I go by the best price and was pointing out that info and would hope someone would do the same. Nothing against swfa @ all as i'm in the process of making a scope order now but  I know from personal experience they won't stand up to the 110% price match as was stated earlier.  It worked out for the best though because I got a much better scope. 


It's real simple, Tank. SWFA owns this forum you're using. It is a private forum, and therefore you have no "right" to say and do whatever you please. Just as you have the right to decide who is and isn't allowed inside your home and how visitors to your home shall behave while they are on your property, SWFA has certain rules you must abide by in exchange for the privilege of using their forum that they pay for and provide for your free use.  Just as a police officer writing you a ticket for doing 80 in a 40 mph zone doesn't care what you think the speed limit should be, what you think of the Forum Rules is irrelevant. You agreed to these rules when you registered your account, and your continued use of this free forum is incumbent on you following those rules, and they aren't negotiable. Beyond the fact that the Rules are non-negotiable, entering into someone's "house" and encouraging other visitors to buy from their competitors is just plain disrespectful.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 03mossy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/06/2014 at 14:37

Alright lets try to steer this back on coarse....

If you had to choose today Zeiss Conquest 4.5x14x44 vs Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44 both for the same price? What would you do?

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That is tough, because they are very closely compared with one another.
 
If you look at both companies they have an excellent track record with producing great products, flawless CS, and these two in particular are great scopes if you are looking to stretch your money into something that will last a long time.
 
Personally I would lean more toward Vortex, becasue of the larger erector, you have a wide magnification range.
 
But I say flip a coin. Your going to make a great decision either way.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rudy Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/06/2014 at 19:25
My vote would be for the Leupold VX-3 or the Vortex. Both are able to handle a beating and have great warranties if needed. I will give the color contrast advantage to the VX-3 though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 03mossy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/07/2014 at 10:03
I've called around to a bunch of shops just to see a Viper HS in person and no one has one in stock.... I own a Conquest and VX3's already so I know there quality.
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Well me and the boy killed a few hours at Cabelas this afternoon and I finally was able to see and play with a viper HS in real life. Turns out they are real and are not just an internet myth Lol. I looked at the 4-16x44 with the bdc. I gotta say I walked away pretty impressed. I dont think the bdc would be to thin in the woods. Sure had a solid feel to it as well.
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Originally posted by 03mossy 03mossy wrote:

Well me and the boy killed a few hours at Cabelas this afternoon and I finally was able to see and play with a viper HS in real life. Turns out they are real and are not just an internet myth Lol. I looked at the 4-16x44 with the bdc. I gotta say I walked away pretty impressed. I dont think the bdc would be to thin in the woods. Sure had a solid feel to it as well.

Yeah, they are a great all-around scope.
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