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    Posted: November/20/2013 at 07:26
I know at this point at least one gift I'm getting for Christmas and that is going to be a Marlin 1895GBL 45-70.
 
If this is an old discussion, my apologies! 
 
This will be a bear and whitetail hunting firearm.  My expectations would be 100-125 yards for
a long shot and 25-30 yards for short shots.  I need a scope under $250 with good eye relief, clear optics, good field of view, and a variable magnification of 1-4 and not exceed 2-7.   Any suggestions based on your experience?
 
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I have 2 Marlin 1895's .. Fun guns ... In your budget I like the Bushnell Elite 2-7 .. Tough little scope with rainguard as an added advantage
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Marine24 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/20/2013 at 08:52
I mounted a Leupold Var X III 1.5-5x on mine but that is out of the budget, but I like the Vortex Crossfire 2-7x scope.

My Guide Gun was hunted from a stand plus as a brush gun in the swamps of NC, so both eyes open capability was important.

What I like about the Vortex is that is has a very generous eye relief, which is important on the Guide Gun, particularly if you pair it Garrett's Hammerhead ammo.
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I would step up to the vortex diamondback and pass on the crossfire.  better build and glass.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/20/2013 at 18:08
I would be looking at these:









Keep in mind that if you use full house loads, then the Bushnell Elite 2-7x32 and Vortex Diamondback 2-7x35 might be a bit short on eye relief.

Personally, I think less is more and I would be looking at scopes that top out at 4x or 5x for this application.  

If it were me, I would stretch my budget just a little and get the Nikon Monarch 1-4x20 with the #4 reticle.  I think that is a perfect match for 45-70.

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http://swfa.com/Vortex-175-5x32-Diamondback-Rifle-Scope-P10827.aspx
 
I actually added a couple of more to the list.
 
So based on two above and 5 in my previous post, how would you rank them
for that 45-70.
 
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Leupold VX-1, Leupold Rifleman and Redfield Revolution are the same basic scope with different cosmetics.

If you like that scope, pick the one with the most visible reticle.

Personally, I would rank them in the following way:
1) Nikon Monarch 1-4x20 with #4 reticle
2) Vortex Diamondback 1.75-5x32
3) Redfield Revolution 2-7x33 with Accu range reticle

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I have a couple of levers scoped for shorter distances, I like the Zeiss Conquest 3-9 x 40.  With my 45-70 I bought the XS sight system ghost ring irons.  No problem at 100 to 150 yards for large game and quicker, for me, for shorter shots.
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Let just say for the price and with the opportunities I had to examine
some of the recommendations, so far the 2-7 Redfield Revolution has
been the one I like best.

Since I'll likely be ordering from the internet, what bases and ring size
would be correct for the Redfield scope?

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I have the stainless version http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp which has the scout type mount from XS systems that comes standard on the stainless gun.  I mounted an aimpoint 9000L with 2moa dot on the first one which my son now has and the second one has open sights for now but I am a big fan of the aimpoint on this rifle because it tends to be a defensive weapon after dark when in areas where there are large preditors.
Aimpoint 9000L 30mm Red Dot Sight 11419 2 MOA Dot Aimpoint 9000L 30mm Red Dot Sight 11419
Stock # - AIM11419
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$419.00 
XS Sight Systems Scope Mount XS Sight Systems Scope Mount
Stock # - 282141A0951
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  • Matte
$49.95 


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If I didnt use the aimpoint I would probably stay with the scout style set up and use the Leupold scout scope to have the long eye relief.  I would probably use Warne Rings Probably the low rings but call SWFA (972) SCOPE-IT (972-726-7348)   and ask them.
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I have one of these on a 45-70. There is none better for what you want.  
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