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Urimaginaryfrnd
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If you have not looked through these dont do it - you WILL want them.
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Kickboxer
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I won't want them...
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NDhunter
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I agree, 17 oz. with the quality build of a Swarovski.
I like mine, so light you don't know you are carrying them.
A nice bright 8x30, and they are worth a look.
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NDhunter
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Boxer:
I see the sample list has a tan model 8x30 CL, at a very nice price.
Looks as new, you need to try some of the newer glass and
see what these are like.
Maybe Chris will let you have a demo.
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PhilR.
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We looked through some at the Cabela's in Buda (TX). I guess I've been spoiled by the view through my Zeiss Conquest HD 8x32, because although the Swaros were very nicely streamlined, I decided I would not trade the view of the Zeiss in order to loose some ounces. Or to put in another way -- IMO the CL's view did not warrant the price, despite it's excellent build quality. But they were very nice.........
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KrazeLegs
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PhilR:
Your comments sound exactly like what I have read on the Birdforum. Nice binoculars, not as good a view as the Conquest HD, and slightly overpriced. I would rather buy the older out of production 8 x 32 SLC's or a demo Zeiss Fl for near a grand. |
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jonoMT
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Won't look. Won't look. Won't look.
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Reaction time is a factor...
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trigger29
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Will they make me want to give up my Geovids? I'd hate to have to go back to carrying a bino, and a rangefinder........
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porkchop401
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I just ordered a pair of these , I will give a first hand review in a week and a detailed report after 2weeks in the Rockies chasing elk.
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The unprepared are the most likely to suffer; Teddy R.
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JGRaider
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The Cabelas Euro 8x32 HD is extremely good also. Well worth $799.
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joejeweler
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Well,....I don't think they'll hold up longterm,....sorry.
That single hinge connecting both objectives is WAY TOO SHORT, in my opinion! It won't take a lot of effort to impart a bit of twist into the allignment of the objective tubes. Accidentally sit on them once and they're toast probably. But even in normal use they look problematic to me. I own several of the old Leitz Trinovids (6X24, 8X32, 8X32B, 7X42, and 10X40), as well as an early 60's Zeiss 8X30B Dialyt,......and lots of Nippon Kogaku porros and one Zeiss 8X32 porro,....and NONE of them have loosened in the hinge area although all are around 50 years old. But they aren't built like that! The Zeiss 8X32B Dialyt, especially,....is built like a TANK in the hinge area.
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joejeweler
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I don't see a way to edit in some additional comments regarding my previous post,.....so i'll add a bit more here.
Here's a picture of my early Zeiss 8X30B Dialyt,....still clean and clear lenses and the hinge still feels like new. (after over 50 years use) .....and the Zeiss is pictured with my very sharp Leitz 6X24 Trinovid,.....which itself shows MUCH more hinge support although a much smaller bino. (Note: In case the image link doesn't work here is a direct link: http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb200/joejeweler/Leitz%206X24%20Trinovid%20Binocukars/LeitzZeissComparison011jpgsmall.jpg
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tahqua
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Interesting observations on the hinge Joseph. I don't know how long this model has been on the market, but it would be interesting to see if the small hinge has had issues.
Welcome to O.T.
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Doug
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joejeweler
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Hi,...thanks for the invite. I just found your site and this was the 1st thread that caught my eye! Frankly, considering they already had a winner with the open structure of the Swarovski EL 8X32 WB (below, and other similar shaped models in their line). I don't understand taking a chance with a frame structure i'm SURE some of their R&D team took issue with. I can't imagine nobody brought it up over coffee and donuts, at least! All the comments on the EL 8X30 line have been positive, that the binocular feels great in hand with that open-ness in the center. The ergonomics there or obvious..... Personally,.... I find the open double hinge kind of "sexy"! :-) |
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porkchop401
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I am returning these as soon as they arrive , I had lost mine and these were replacements after I look for a solid week ,not 6 hrs after I order new ones I stumble on to mine . Brilliant |
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The unprepared are the most likely to suffer; Teddy R.
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NDhunter
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Joe:
Your take on the Swarovski binoculars is interesting, but I am wondering about
why you are questioning the construction of the CL and how strong it is.
The CL is a small binocular, and so does not need a large hinge, and I have not heard
of any reports of problems at all, with any issues.
I own the CL, and the EL you have pictured, they both are very nice optics, and I am
thinking Swarovski has designed all of these with strength and quality in mind.
Have you had some problems with yours, and have you even tested them?
I can find no reason for an armchair engineer to come on hear and spout off nonsense.
Jerry
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Klamath
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I think there is no chance for frame structure failure here. What is going I think is typical "in the box thinking". If anybody ever sees an unarmored high single hinge binocular where the whole assembly is out in the open, there is not much doubt they will be strong enough.
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Steve
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FourEyedOptics
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Great binos! They cut corners on minor details but they did not skimp on the optics. Amazing detail.
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joejeweler
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joejeweler
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I hope you're right,....but as my previous post i'm not willing to spend $950.00 to find out! That's not chump change. If this does indeed turn out to be a regularly problem, i'd hate to be told they were "abused" and therefor relieved of warrantee coverage if the allignment goes out. You almost never hear a company's admission of "design flaw".
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